Comment on What Meta’s Fediverse Plans Mean for Threads Users
ZeroHora@lemmy.ml 9 months agoNo the next step is saying that text transcription didn’t worked like they wanted so we need to change the AP to allow what the majority wants(spoiler: they are the majority)
originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 9 months ago
i didnt know they could unilaterally change AP for everyone. who let them have that right?
Blaze@discuss.online 9 months ago
You can have a look at this article
ploum.net/2023-06-23-how-to-kill-decentralised-ne…
Long story short, Google killed XMPP back in the days by federating with it, then added some non standard features, got most of the user base to migrate to Google chat, then defederated.
originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 9 months ago
right this is the 'feature envy' argument
ha a blog post, ok. even the blog post admits it
every instance of xmpp folded to google because it "got most of user base to migrate"
if the fediverse cant actually compete content and feature wise across 10s of thousands of very different services/experiences built on AP, (unlike XMPP), we deserve to die.
the world is a different place than it was . how many people do you know use gtalk? zero? its zero. xmpp? STILL A THING YOU CAN USE. google didnt kill shit. the market at the time seriously minimized its use, cuz everyone was lazy and not running their own server-server products.
back today.
do you have any evidence of Meta modifying the AP protocol? can you point at their actual ability to modify the protocol? can you tell me how an instance that drops all nonstandard AP traffic is going to suffer from Meta attempting it?
Blaze@discuss.online 9 months ago
To be fair, maybe we are not even that alive to begin with.
ZeroHora@lemmy.ml 9 months ago
I’m just joking, I don’t think they can make a change unilaterally easily.
originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 9 months ago
that is one of my only actual concerns. he who controls the protocol, controls the 'verse.
Diabolo96@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 months ago
It’s far worse. They’re making improvements only on their side. The protocol everyone uses will lack the features their protocol offers. In other words, their side of the garden is now greener than ours, and one day, their side will be so majestic and beautiful compared to ours that almost nobody will want to visit it anymore, and like a flame without fuel, the Fediverse will Extinguish on its own.