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Its not a weird rabbit hole, you said one thing with nothing to back it up and on top of that you doubled down and said it was codified into law. Show me the law you speak of. I told you the language of the programs you called not welfare where they were indeed called just that. Just back up your argument you say is in law.

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wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
It is a weird rabbit hole. I said welfare

thebalancemoney.com/welfare-programs-definition-a…

I do not see farming subsidies on that list? Do you? Do you see fuel subsidies on that list?

Technically only TANF is welfare but the other could be considered welfare.

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- HorreC@kbin.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  This isnt the way the law (as you said it was codified into) reads, social welfare programs like earned income tax credits are in fact a subsides for things you do. You have a kid here is X amount, but what the ones you listed are only the ones that help individuals, not corporations or other employers which are still welfare. You are saying that companies can be poor and they still are fine and we go on, but fucking humans, you have a bad year, you loose your right to vote.
  
  Now dont get me wrong, I do think with social programs there should be added weight. We could require those that need help with food for children they get 3 months or what ever the term of the birth control they take is on. Both would be provided freely and it would help make sure that they dont get deeper in debt when they feel the pressure soften. If they dont wish too, then they are fine to say no, but in that case you cant get the help. If you were suggesting those kind of things, you might seem reasonable, but to say they lose the right to vote over it is non-sense.
  
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  - wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    I am not sure the point you are trying to make. You’re going down a rabbit hole as I said you would. You are so far off topic I’m going to move on.
    
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