They did a little more than think. Conspiracy requires an action even a small action. I am not a fan of conspiracy charges because it is human nature to vent and many actions could be considered an action towards the crime. Luckily I don’t write the laws because it would be tough to write it correctly to get the people that are conspiring vs someone who ran their mouth when angry.
PizzaMane@lemm.ee 8 months ago
“Hey let’s go kill some federal agents” isn’t venting.
PeepinGoodArgs@reddthat.com 8 months ago
Winter’s whole rhetorical strategy in this community is minimization. No matter what Republicans or conservatives do, it’s never as bad as it’s made out to be, even if someone makes plans to kill 37 LEOs. It’s just venting after all…
wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 8 months ago
I’m not minimizing anything. Without more information, it’s hard to know if they were a threat or over zealous prosecution.
PizzaMane@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Finally something that isn’t just deflection or an attempt to put words in someone’s mouth.
Let’s see, he:
is a criminal (assaulting officers and destruction of government property during Jan 6th)
plotted to kill 37 FBI agents (including some that were investigating his criminal actions from Jan 6
is now charged with conspiracy, retaliating against a federal official, interstate communication of a threat and solicitation to commit a crime of violence
he “obtained a list of law enforcement personnel who participated in that criminal investigation and the two discussed plans to kill individuals on the list in conversations with a cooperating witness. Those plans included an attack on the FBI’s Knoxville Field Office.” “A witness, who was described as a coworker and a very good friend to Carter, met with Kelley and Carter in early December when Kelley discussed assassination missions that would target federal agents.” “On Dec. 13, Carter gave the witness an envelope from Kelley that contained 37 names and some phone numbers of the law enforcement personnel who participated in his criminal investigation, as well as a thumb drive of video footage from a warrant search of Kelley’s home in May.”
is quoted as having said “With us being such a small group we will mainly conduct recon missions and assassination missions.”
Sources:
wate.com/…/maryville-man-january-6-fbi-knoxville-…
wate.com/…/two-planned-attack-fbi-knoxville-offic…
wate.com/…/east-tennesseei-40-i-75-icy-conditions…
nytimes.com/…/jan-6-defendant-assassination-plot.…
nbcnews.com/…/capitol-riot-defendant-planned-kill…
Seems reasonable to me to consider him to be a threat.
wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Did he kill any federal agents?
PizzaMane@lemm.ee 8 months ago
It isn’t venting. Quit trying to deflect.
wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 8 months ago
You have no idea what he was doing. You don’t even understand what a conspiracy charge is. Did he kill a federal agent or not?