Comment on no monetization, you said a bad word

• orrk@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  it’s not newspeak, it might be euphemisms but the meaning of what is being said is alive and well, the major hallmark of newspeak is to limit the ability to convey ideas via conversation

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  • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    the major hallmark of newspeak is to limit the ability to convey ideas via conversation

    Slowly constricting the number of words that can be publicly spoken does work us toward that end. Folks who think they’re cleverly sidestepping the latest hurdle are only getting corralled deeper into the pen.

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  • stingpie@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    To be precise, newspeak does function by a direct reduction of vocabulary. Instead, newspeak works by expanding the number of meanings a single word can have, so that every sentence can be interpreted as supportive of the party, and the ‘grammatically correct’ meaning of the sentence is the supportive interpretation.

    The closest approximation of newspeak in English is the sentence “That didn’t work, did it?” If you respond “Yes,” that can be interpreted as “Yes, you are correct, that didn’t work.” And if you reply “No,” that can’t be interpreted as “No, that didn’t work.”

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    • Cort@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Oz response: nah, yeah it worked mate

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      • thisisnotgoingwell@programming.dev ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Simple math, gotta cancel out the negative with your own negative and then affirm the positive

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  • NoSpiritAnimal@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Ok, so like how it limits the ability to convey ideas via conversation then?

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    • DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Adapting language to bypass censorship is very much not Newspeak.

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      • NoSpiritAnimal@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Adapting language to bypass censorship is one of the dictionary definitions of Newspeak, a form of circumlocution.

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