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• CADmonkey@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  You guys are missing my point. Im not talking about incels, I’m talking about people who just call all lonely guys incels. The way everyone is happily downvoting me when I say this are proving me right.

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  • TheDoctorDonna@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Sorry, I did miss the point. I’ve literally never seen it happen the way you describe it.

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    • rottingleaf@lemmy.zip ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I have and experienced it. Though admittedly any traumatic experience often makes you see things which aren’t there.

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      • TheDoctorDonna@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I am sorry you had to experience that, but it is very insightful and aware that your trauma would affect the perception.

        Not saying this about you specifically ( I don’t know if you have things about you that you don’t like), but people who have things they don’t like about themselves also have a tendency to see criticism and insults about that particular thing where there are none. Like I used to be really over weight, so anytime anyone made jokes about something being large or about pigs or cows, I would internalize that and assume it was about my fatness because I hated that about myself.

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  • GilgameshCatBeard@lemmy.ca ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Incels are called incels. Lonely guys are lonely guys. If you’re being called an incel, there’s a reason.

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    • rottingleaf@lemmy.zip ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I can literally call you anything right now in this comment, and there’d be a reason.

      That “no smoke without fire” thing is disgusting.

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  • Kepabar@startrek.website ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    No one does that.

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  • Nudding@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    We are all talking about incels. Nobody here has a problem with lonely guys. I think you’re missing everyone else’s point.

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• Facebones@reddthat.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  You really swung for the fences over somebody saying “calling all lonely men incels are bad.”

  You ABSOLUTELY proved his point, this comment was so damn extra in relation to o what you replied to.

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  • TheDoctorDonna@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    In my experience people aren’t calling lonely men incels, they’re calling men who are wholly unlikable who blame their loneliness and lack of sex on other people incels.

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    • Facebones@reddthat.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      In my experience, I JUST watched you call somebody an incel because they said not all lonely men are incels. 🤷

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      • TheDoctorDonna@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Where did I call anyone an incel?

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    • rottingleaf@lemmy.zip ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      who are wholly unlikable

      Well, I participate in such arguments because the only people fully unlikable are those who are fine with calling others fully unlikable.

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      • TheDoctorDonna@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Maybe I am, I really wouldn’t know (my husband would though). If I am I would deal with it iand improve myself nstead of blaming it on others.

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• rottingleaf@lemmy.zip ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Everyone is lonely, it’s nobody’s fault unless you want to blame society as a whole which will get you nowhere.

  I don’t see anything wrong with blaming society as a whole. There are definitely general problems with it at all times. Like in Nazi Germany or, say, Victorian England and any other time and place, each in its own way.

  This phrase feels as if you are putting yourself on the place of “society” to feel strong and the person you are addressing on the place of somebody opposing it.

  If they feel that too, then sure as hell they won’t listen to you if they have dignity.

  And most importantly, never expect someone to like you in any way, no one is obligated to you.

  This works both ways.

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  • TheDoctorDonna@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I don’t mean to put myself in the place of anything - I just meant that the better course of action is to find improvement rather than fault. It’s a situation where being able to put the blame on something does nothing to improve the situation. We’re lonely because there are too many people is all.

    There’s a lot of people at fault for things in my life and if I worried about blaming them, I wouldn’t have had the time to get educated and grow as a human so that I could move past the things they are at fault, I was just trying to broaden that idea into something more general.

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    • rottingleaf@lemmy.zip ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Ah. Then I’d say that dealing in blame is emotionally the wrong thing to do for long in any direction. Only dealing in duty and correctness is worse. Dealing in wishes and dreams is what helps me when I remember about attitude.

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