Comment on 'Go woke, go broke'
wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 1 year agoHeavy taxation, spending on stupid programs, and trying to micromanage people’s lives.
Comment on 'Go woke, go broke'
wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 1 year agoHeavy taxation, spending on stupid programs, and trying to micromanage people’s lives.
voracitude@lemmy.world 1 year ago
You forgot to tell me what this “destruction” will look like, but I’ll address what you’ve said so far.
So you’re rich enough that wealth taxes would impact you, meaning you have over the last three years either:
For each of the last three years. That would make sense then that you don’t need social programs, and would consider them stupid. But the people flipping your burgers, educating your children, and fighting your wars are not in that position, and will benefit from the social programmes you have no use for.
We’ll leave “micromanage people’s lives” as read, because I’m sure you’re talking about guns and COVID, but I think you’ll find curbing voting rights and politicians making medical decisions for people aren’t “blue ideas”.
wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 1 year ago
I didn’t mention a wealth tax. Blue states tend to have high property taxes, sales taxes and income taxes. We do not have a sales tax in Oregon but we do have property and income. The income tax is one of the highest in the nation.
Nice strawman, but when have I ever said an adult couldn’t make their own medical decisions? As a doctor, I strongly believe in body autonomy for adults. While I don’t practice anymore, I still hold that as a gold standard that all adults should choose the care they want.
I have not seen any curbing of voting rights. I have seen changes to make the system better but nothing that prevents a legal voter from voting. In many cases they have enhanced the ability for people to vote.
voracitude@lemmy.world 1 year ago
It’s not a strawman, it’s an educated guess based on the zeitgeist. You haven’t said adults can’t make their own medical decisions, but a major political party is all about controlling reproductive care, and it isn’t the Democrats. You tried say it’s a “blue idea” to meddle in people’s lives, I’ve just raised a counterpoint showing it’s not. That’s all.
And yes, you didn’t mention a wealth tax, but that’s the current “blue idea” on taxation. Poor Californians pay less in tax than most other states: cato.org/…/are-taxes-really-lower-california-texa…
But those are just numbers, I was interested in what you’re actually concerned about with this “destruction”. So it’s fair to say you worry that a blue influx will result in more taxes, and more regulations curbing personal freedoms?
By the way, if you haven’t seen efforts to curb voting rights, then you’ve had your eyes closed: www.cnn.com/2021/07/22/politics/…/index.html
wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Conservatives are not like liberals. We do not share a group mind. We each have our own opinions. The religious right is more prone to be anti-abortion on religious grounds. I am not religious and as such have no qualms with the ethical choice of abortion. I believe each person has the right to make their medical decisions without your sky god being involved. I am not anti-religious though. I do attend mass on holidays and other times throughout the year but it is more for tradition.
Not in absolute terms but in all terms they are higher. In my red state I paid 4.5 for income tax. In Oregon, I pay 10%.
If you look at the Cato article, it discredits California as a low tax state.
Having lived in both states, California is much more heavily taxed than Texas. I admit I was only in Texas briefly but overall the taxes were lower.
The devil is in the details for voting. WIthout a specific example, it’s hard to say. Personally I wish we would not let poor people vote. The founding fathers would never allowed that and I agree with them.