Comment on 'Go woke, go broke'
voracitude@lemmy.world 1 year ago
When you say these people will “destroy” the South, what are you saying that destruction will look like? What “bad blue ideas” will have this outcome, and why?
Comment on 'Go woke, go broke'
voracitude@lemmy.world 1 year ago
When you say these people will “destroy” the South, what are you saying that destruction will look like? What “bad blue ideas” will have this outcome, and why?
wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Heavy taxation, spending on stupid programs, and trying to micromanage people’s lives.
voracitude@lemmy.world 1 year ago
You forgot to tell me what this “destruction” will look like, but I’ll address what you’ve said so far.
So you’re rich enough that wealth taxes would impact you, meaning you have over the last three years either:
For each of the last three years. That would make sense then that you don’t need social programs, and would consider them stupid. But the people flipping your burgers, educating your children, and fighting your wars are not in that position, and will benefit from the social programmes you have no use for.
We’ll leave “micromanage people’s lives” as read, because I’m sure you’re talking about guns and COVID, but I think you’ll find curbing voting rights and politicians making medical decisions for people aren’t “blue ideas”.
wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 1 year ago
I didn’t mention a wealth tax. Blue states tend to have high property taxes, sales taxes and income taxes. We do not have a sales tax in Oregon but we do have property and income. The income tax is one of the highest in the nation.
Nice strawman, but when have I ever said an adult couldn’t make their own medical decisions? As a doctor, I strongly believe in body autonomy for adults. While I don’t practice anymore, I still hold that as a gold standard that all adults should choose the care they want.
I have not seen any curbing of voting rights. I have seen changes to make the system better but nothing that prevents a legal voter from voting. In many cases they have enhanced the ability for people to vote.
voracitude@lemmy.world 1 year ago
It’s not a strawman, it’s an educated guess based on the zeitgeist. You haven’t said adults can’t make their own medical decisions, but a major political party is all about controlling reproductive care, and it isn’t the Democrats. You tried say it’s a “blue idea” to meddle in people’s lives, I’ve just raised a counterpoint showing it’s not. That’s all.
And yes, you didn’t mention a wealth tax, but that’s the current “blue idea” on taxation. Poor Californians pay less in tax than most other states: cato.org/…/are-taxes-really-lower-california-texa…
But those are just numbers, I was interested in what you’re actually concerned about with this “destruction”. So it’s fair to say you worry that a blue influx will result in more taxes, and more regulations curbing personal freedoms?
By the way, if you haven’t seen efforts to curb voting rights, then you’ve had your eyes closed: www.cnn.com/2021/07/22/politics/…/index.html