Comment on You're Not Imagining It: Google Search Results Are Getting Worse, Study Finds

rickdg@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• Boozilla@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I like kagi, too. The small subscription fee is worth it to me because I get decent search results and they don’t track you or bubble you…

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  • LWD@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    If you’re interested in an engine that pulls from different sources, doesn’t tie you to an account, doesn’t fund a sketchy man who runs a sketchy company, and doesn’t cost money… Those exist too!

    searx.space

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    • Boozilla@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Well fuck. I want nothing to do with kagi now.

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      • LWD@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

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    • loudwhisper@infosec.pub ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      That’s not an engine, it’s a metaengine. The results are still tied to the engines used, which means if they are trash, you get trash. Kagi uses a mix of google/yandex/brave etc. and then elaborates them as well, in addition to have their own scraper for things like the small web (which is great to surface personal blogs).

      They are not comparable. Also, kagi’s privacy policy is exemplar and the account can be paid in crypto now (if you don’t want to use CC).

      Besides, there is no such thing as free hosting, similarly to Lemmy, it’s just someone paying.

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      • LWD@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        That’s not an engine, it’s a metaengine

        Really strange nitpick to bring up as a first point. If Kagi is a meta-engine, then SearX is too. Maybe you simply haven’t tried it, because it cites multiple sources per search.

        And Brave has ties back to using Google data:

        Brave’s search is optimized against Google search results. Ever since its Cliqz ancestry, documented on the Cliqz blog, it optimizes its ranking algorithm to match Google ranking as closely as possible. Brave’s search discovery project uses clicks on Google’s results in the Brave browser to discover new sites. In other words, it’s not sufficiently different from Google to really diversify the search results.

        there is no such thing as free hosting, similarly to Lemmy

        People who host Lemmy and SearchX instances are doing it charitably. And SearX does not pay any big company back, AFAICT.

        Kagi is a for-profit corporation that postures as not being one, even talking about “fundraisers” and “humanizing the web.”

        Big difference.

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    • RedditRefugee69@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I’m so technologically illiterate I couldn’t figure out how to access the sears.space website. All I can find is versions and instances and a GitHub page

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      • LWD@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Every site on the leftmost column is a SearX instance. e.g. searxng.site

        It’s like… Lemmy, actually.

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    • alansuspect@aussie.zone ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I picked up from their response that they’re just using the public API, not in any kind of partnership?

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