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lung@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

I’m a digital anarchist. All this regulation doesn’t help, it just makes the Internet more ridiculous, and raises the barriers to entry - fuck em. Rather than regulating some sane browser features, we left it to every site to implement a cookies popup, and they are unique enough that they aren’t easily filtered. So now every site has cringe popups that nobody reads or understands, thanks regulators!! Really solved that shit. I don’t trust these assholes, it’s all gonna get lobbied weird and big money pretty much always wins

Real open source is the answer. Common goods for common people, not led by capitalism, but led by shared infrastructure needs that benefit all. Protect the rights to anonymity/privacy online, instead of helping big tech deanonymize everyone. Uphold the values of the constitution of the USA, but in the digital space. And otherwise fuck off, govt

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richieadler@lemmy.myserv.one ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

Uphold the values of the constitution of the USA, but in the digital space.

And fuck the rest of the world?

And otherwise fuck off, govt

Anarchist nonsense. Zero government = total chaos. The strong eats the weak. Like now, but worse.

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- LWD@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  “Uphold the values of the Constitution, otherwise fuck off” doesn’t sound like a zero-government stance to me. If anything, it’s pretty clearly conditional.
  
  At least, as clear as a Lemmy comment can get
  
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  - richieadler@lemmy.myserv.one ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    There’s a period. It reads “in all other matters, government fuck off”.
    
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    LWD@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Except they didn’t say “I’m an anarchist.”
    
    They said
    
    I’m a digital ~anarchist.
    
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- troyunrau@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  You’re getting downvoted because Lemmy. But you’re absolutely right. Laissez-faire doesn’t work.
  
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  - metaStatic@kbin.social ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    If you think laissez-faire is a just hierarchy I have some carbon offsets to sell you.
    
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    BearOfaTime@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Nothing laissez-faire about regulatory capture…
    
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  - Eldritch@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Anarchism, The actual anarchism. Has nothing to do with laissez-faire. Anarcho-capitalists are oxymorons. Always figuratively, and often even literally. They’re capitalist, not anarchists. They just believe that their capital should give them them power over you. But not vice versa.
    
    Anarchists and actual libertarians are not against governance. They just think it should be as flat and local as possible. That it shouldn’t be large hierarchical monolithic structures that people have a hard time understanding or lobbying. Structures that also have a hard time understanding individuals and serving them.
    
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- auzas_1337@lemmy.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Not sure if OP meant “zero-government” because that’s not what anarchism as a political theory and movement is about.
  
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- HidingCat@kbin.social ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  This is why I don't like the Fediverse as much. Can you believe that loon got so many upvotes? Describes the average mentality around these parts, what a turn off.
  
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- HarkMahlberg@kbin.social ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  
  And fuck the rest of the world?
  
  Where do you think every website in the entire world is hosted? It's America, obviously. We're the only country with a Constitution after all!
  
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- Lifecoach5000@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I kinda don’t even think these conversations should happen until internet access is seen as a guaranteed right- through govt regulation or whatever. Otherwise, I feel like these takes are putting the cart before the horse - so to speak.
  
  PS - I know I am replying to you but i my comments are geared towards OP
  
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mr_strange@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

So now every site has cringe popups that nobody reads or understands, thanks regulators!!

It’s not the law that mandates the awful UI of those popups… it’s Google. I’m an adwords publisher, on my blog and a couple of (formerly!) popular web-apps. My sites were all compliant with the legislation, but not with Google’s policy for adwords publishers. Their algorithm sent me an e-mail threatening to cut off my income unless I implemented one of their “approved” cookie scripts. As any fool knows, it’s simply not possible to contact a real human at Google, so I was forced to do as they wished. So now all my sites have pointless, annoying cookie popups.

Everyone hates those popups, but don’t blame the legislation - blame Google for forcing the whole Internet into malicious compliance.

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GoldenDoge@lemmy.ml ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Since you are a “digital anarchist” I was wondering what your opinion was on the website “4chan.org”?

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- lung@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  My opinion is that it’s super legit, basically the only lasting icon of creativity and freedom of speech. Feels like what the whole internet used to be like, during the golden age before everything was captured by corps that fear brand damage and legal repercussions. People still repost 4chan content to all other media obsessively. Anyway 4chan is where it belongs, in the background. If it was more popular it would get totaled
  
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- the_post_of_tom_joad@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Im not the anarchist but 4chan is dope. I don’t spend as much time on there as here, but im glad it exists
  
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