DRM is not the same as a subscription.
And a lot of games on steam don’t have the DRM, you can just buy and keep the game files. I do wish they’d make it clear on the store page or give me the option to filter out DRM games though.
Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
In this thread: People that disagree and then turn around and play games they don’t truly own on Steam
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TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
“A lot”
How many?
Can you play the games by purchasing them and then not having to ever download them using Steam?
The only DRM free games are physical copies, otherwise you rely on a specific service to be able to play, even if it’s only once (like with GOG), it’s a form of DRM.
TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 8 months ago
“A lot”
Yes, a lot.
Can you play the games by purchasing them and then not having to ever download them using Steam?
Yes.
The only DRM free games are physical copies
No. Evidently you don’t know what Digital Rights Management is.
If you can run it with no launcher, no software verifying purchase, you can back it up, copy it, distribute it, etc, then it’s not DRM.
otherwise you rely on a specific service to be able to play, even if it’s only once (like with GOG), it’s a form of DRM.
Wait, what? You think buying a DRM-free game from a storefront is a form of DRM?
Ok then, let’s use that logic. Buying a physical game from a shop is therefore also DRM, because you have to buy the game from them.
Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Proportionally it doesn’t look too great
pcgamingwiki.com/…/List_of_DRM-free_games_on_Stea…
`>Can you play the games by purchasing them and then not having to ever download them using Steam?
Yes.`
Tell me how do you but a game on Steam and play it without downloading it from their servers? 🤔
Wait, *what?* You think buying a DRM-free game from a storefront is a form of DRM?It is, you depend on a digital storefront to have a proof of ownership and to download the game in the first place.
Buying a physical game from a shop is therefore also DRMWhat’s digital about physical copies?
RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I pirate, and also pay for games I think the devs should make money on. I happen to like bioshock and la noire enough to pay for them on steam, with cracked copies to keep.
Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Why not buy from a DRM free platform or one where the devs make a bigger share of the profit?
RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 8 months ago
It depends on the game. I also don’t want to create many accounts all over the place. I don’t think gog has bioshock?
Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
It does.
TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 8 months ago
You literally said in another comment that DRM-free storefronts are still DRM. Which is it?
Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Still better than the alternative which is 100% dependence on the platform you bought from. Even the backups you can create from Steam require Steam to unpack, if it stops existing or they stop supporting it then your backups are useless.
Waluigis_Talking_Buttplug@lemmy.world 8 months ago
My argument against this is that at least I own a license to the game rather than just a subscription. Steam still has and updates games that were made unpurchasable a decade ago. Hell, people still play rocket league on steam.
This is a separate argument altogether. There’s own physically and own a license to. If you own it physically and your physical media corrupts (which happens often to digital discs) did you own it any more than if you had it on steam? It’s also illegal to make a copy of a console disc, btw.
What the article is talking about is not even obtaining a license.
TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Yup. Physical media has its own disadvantages.
If I scratch a disc, or my house gets robbed, burns down, etc, it’s gone forever and I need to buy a new game. If I have a digital copy, I still have it.
There are pros and cons.
Plus, this idea that physical media doesn’t have DRM is a complete falsehood. Discs and cartridges come with copy protection, region-locking, forced always-online DRM, etc. If that’s not digital rights management, I don’t know what is!