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Kecessa@sh.itjust.works ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

Proportionally it doesn’t look too great

pcgamingwiki.com/…/List_of_DRM-free_games_on_Stea…

`>Can you play the games by purchasing them and then not having to ever download them using Steam?

Yes.`

Tell me how do you but a game on Steam and play it without downloading it from their servers? 🤔

Wait, *what?* You think buying a DRM-free game from a storefront is a form of DRM?

It is, you depend on a digital storefront to have a proof of ownership and to download the game in the first place.

Buying a physical game from a shop is therefore also DRM

What’s digital about physical copies?

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Euphoma@lemmy.ml ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
That list doesn’t have literally every DRM free game, almost every VR game I have doesn’t have DRM and they are not on the list.

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TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

Tell me how do you but a game on Steam and play it without downloading it from their servers? 🤔

Downloading a DRM-free game from a web store is not DRM no matter how much you repeat that it is.

It is, you depend on a digital storefront to have a proof of ownership and to download the game in the first place.

It isn’t. The files can be copied and distributed any way you like. Same goes for GOG.

What’s digital about physical copies?

It’s still digital. It contains digital data… come on, you can’t seriously be unaware of this. Is a digital camera not a digital because it stores the data on an SD card?

Physical media has DRM too. CDs, DVDs, BluRays, game cartridges all have DRM.

Your argument that buying something means it’s DRM is nonsense. Buying something from a physical shop and buying something online isn’t particularly different. They’re either both DRM or neither are.

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- Kecessa@sh.itjust.works ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Which is the only way you can own and play a game without an internet connection?
  
  That’s the only true DRM free and true ownership experience.
  
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  - TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    You’re moving the goalposts again?
    
    Downloading a game isn’t DRM.
    
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    Kecessa@sh.itjust.works ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Yes it is as you depend on the goodwill of a digital platform. If Steam bans you how do you prove that you own the “DRM free” games you’ve bought from them and haven’t simply pirated them?
    
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