Comment on Google Search Really Has Gotten Worse, Researchers Find

• brbposting@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I swear I’m going to capture screenshots of 2-3 dozen searches across DDG & Google, as well as hopefully Bing, Startpage… SearXNG…

  b/c DDG is doodoo while corporate overlord Google is great with Ublock Origin.

  Faithfully perform every search on DDG first in the hopes I can keep the data out of Google’s hands! But !g out half the time.

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  Anybody know of a site, app, or TamperMonkey script that’ll search multiple search engines side-by-side?

  In the meantime, one example w/a direct quote from deep inside a Harry Potter book:

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  • abhibeckert@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    You know DDG is just a wrapper around Bing right? No point comparing the two.

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    • Carighan@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Not entirely true, they have their own index they use to augment/modify the results with. Like the paper linked in this very post shows, actually.

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  • LWD@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Genuinely, thank you for going through the trouble. I know it’s a huge ask, especially because it’s not easy to retroactively remember a specific type of search you were struggling with on one engine versus the other.

    *Insert joke about how Google is the woke search engine here*

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  • ratcliff@lemmy.wtf ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Works on SearX

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• 0110010001100010@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Honestly it’s been a yearish since I’ve tried and my memory is shit so I don’t have any specific examples I can give now. In general though the bulk of my searches involve:

  • A local company I need for xyz or a specific type of restaurant
  • Issues/repairs for a specific make/model/year car (I do lots of my own work)
  • Various homelab related things (docker services for xyz)
  • Details about a movie or TV show (sometimes a specific episode)
  • Prices for products and where I can get them (trying to de-Amazon)
  • How to fix xyz in my home

  I’m sure there are more, but those are the ones I can think of off the top of my head.

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  • ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Tbh using DDG is more like using old (and I mean old) Google. Googling things used to be a skill people had. You googled things for other people because they had no idea how to get good results. That’s exactly how DDG is. It takes rewiring your brain to use it, and I’ve been using it for a year now.

    I do go to Google sometimes. Specifically for opening hours in stores, and when I’m trying to look for products from smaller online stores I do not yet know of, which takes me to page 3-4 of Google but would’ve taken me far longer on DDG.

    The country switch on DDG is a godsend because you can manipulate searches with it and get some really specific results if you know what you’re doing. It’s the learning curve that makes DDG worse if you just want to find something without having to teach yourself to search. Which is definitely a point to Google, but if you want a very specific result it’s better to battle that learning curve.

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    • RememberTheApollo@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      All true. DDG is my default search engine now. Yeah. I use others often enough, Google, Bing, searXNG…but I find that if I can’t find it relatively easily on DDG it means I’m going to have to sift through a bunch of SEO sites and sponsored links on Google to find it. It won’t be much easier. One of the most frustrating thing about Google is the “fuck you” they’ve given to search modifiers. The “-“ and quotes are pretty much meaningless. For instance one can enter an error code from a program, perfectly quoted, and Google will tell you there aren’t any good search results. BS. They just can’t figure out how to jam ads into what you’re looking for or something. Bing or DDG will return what you need, it might just be on page 2.

      Google really has failed as a search engine.

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  • DreadPotato@sopuli.xyz ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I find that DDG is terrible at finding anything regionally specific, probably because I’m not in the US. I always get a shitload of US hits and usually some German hits if I trybto specify location…neither are useful to me.

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    • LWD@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Interesting, I have the exact opposite problem: after telling the search engine not to serve up local results, it serves me local results anyway. I’ve even identified this behavior when switching to different countries via a VPN.

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