Race to the bottom, race to the bottom, race to the bottom again
Comment on SAG-AFTRA Approves AI Voice Actors, Enrages the VA Community
chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Here I go again, playing devil’s advocate…
So, this is an opt-in situation. That means that actors still have to give their permission to have their voice used. Furthermore, they must still give their consent on a per-project basis. Further-furthermore, they still get paid when their voice is used this way.
That being said, this seems like a smart move on the side of SAG-AFTRA if for no other reason other than it’s going to happen one way or the other, though it would have been better to do this a decade ago and have more control, but more on that later. AI is a boulder rolling down the mountain, and creatives are the house at the bottom of the mountain. The boulder is going to destroy the house, and there is no stopping it. SAG-AFTRA is taking actions to save what they can from the house and at least make sure that there are protections in place for future houses. This is what happens when no one wants to keep up with tech and has to be reactive instead of pro-active.
We rolled the corpse of TUPAC on stage at Coachella in 2012, 11 years ago. That’s 11 years to sort all of this shit out and set up some protections for using likenesses with the prospect of new tech. That’s 11 years to get your shit together for the future. But everyone was like, “Ha ha, truck drivers, fast food workers, and the rest of the poors will be the first to suffer under the boot of advanced automation. AI won’t come to Hollywood. No one can replicate such masterpieces as Catwoman and Bee Movie. We are invincible.” Well, here we are, and Hollywood and other creatives are caught with their pants down. None of this shit is new. Hell, Hollywood has been making movies about this kind of shit for decades, they were just too busy sniffing their own farts to realize they were the ones in trouble.
So, now, SAG-AFTRA are having to make concessions to stay relevant in an emerging system, instead of making the rules themselves like they should have been doing a decade ago. Is anything going to change? Is anyone going to be looking forward? Or can we expect another strike in 10 years because the policies put in place today were merely stop-gaps and did nothing to shore up for the next boulder the rolls down the mountain?
half_built_pyramids@lemmy.world 5 months ago
lemmie689@lemmy.sdf.org 5 months ago
When I get to the bottom I go back to the top of the slide Where I stop and I turn and I go for a ride 'Til I get to the bottom and I see you again Yeah, yeah, yeah, ha-ha-ha!
driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 5 months ago
Opt-in until all the work contracts include the AI permission clause and you sign in or don’t get any contract.
foofy@lemmy.world 5 months ago
It’s a race to the bottom.
Yes, you can decline to opt in, but the guy next to you (or the guy next to him) will opt in and sell his AI voice package for less than it costs to employ a real person. And unlike a real person, the AI voice package can work 24/7 on 10,000 productions at the same time.
If anyone can opt in, then no one can really opt out.
Is this a good thing? For the bottom line of the people making the games, sure. And maybe 3% of that savings will trickle down to the consumer.
But it’s pretty bad for the voice actors.
chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 5 months ago
I 100% agree with you. That is why SAG-AFTRA needs to step in and make good policies now instead of just plugging the hole in the dam.
golli@lemm.ee 5 months ago
I absolutely agree with this take. This isn’t something that will just go away. Especially for something like video games it just makes too much sense. The best time to address this topic might have been a long time ago, but they are still in a position where they can shape how things will play out. In the short term it might be better to not do so, but eventually someone else will take the opportunity if they don’t.
LWD@lemm.ee 5 months ago
You missed something crucial:
Film, TV, and streaming are still protected from AI voice actors crowding their space with soulless slop. It’s video games that aren’t.
In addition, this means that real voice actors will now have to compete with AI actors who don’t even have to show up to audition. And who wouldn’t like to play Disney’s new Black Panther game featuring the real* voice of Chadwick Boseman?