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• intensely_human@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Does “dishonest argumentation” involve making false statements?

  I’m going to guess no, because if they were lying the article would be about then lying.

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• PizzaMane@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  100% of the videos on climate change or energy are based on lies, which is easily inferred by the fact that the continue to support using fossil fuels and expanding their production.

  That, and Prager"U" is funded by the oil lobby.

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  • intensely_human@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Which lies are they based on? Are they lies that can be actually written here, as evidence this isn’t all just being made up?

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    • PizzaMane@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Here is an example for you:

      www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZEomO2OsAc

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      • intensely_human@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Ugh. I upvoted you because you provided something more specific than anyone else. But you still made zero effort to actually point me at an answer. So I did it myself.

        In that video, Mr Beat only makes two claims about PragerU’s Michell making false claims.

        ##1: He chastises her for trying to pack the 500,000 number she mentions for Diversity Visa Lottery into the 1,000,000 per year number.

        In Beats’s video, there is a clip of her saying:

        In that same timeframe, nearly half a million more people came to America through the Diversity Visa Lottery". The next clip is him saying:

        There you go again. No, you don’t get to count those immigrants quadrice

        But she wasn’t trying to count them twice. She wasn’t even talking about the 1,000,000 per year number at all. That was from a different part of her video.

        What she actually says, in the context of the video he’s trying to debunk, is this:

        From 2008 to 2017, the U.S. gave green cards to well over a million people for humanitarian reasons, allowing them to live and work here permanently. After five years, they can apply for full citizenship. We’re not done yet. In that same time frame, nearly half a million more people came to American through the Diversity Visa Lottery

        Back in Beats’s video, he says:

        Oh and plus, the numbers he gives is actually for ten years

        With his tone he implies that she gave some time frame other than 10 years.

        ##2: He claims she gave false info about the requirements to qualify for the Divesity Visa Lottery.

        This one is straightforward. He quotes he as saying:

        Diversity visa applications don’t need a high school education, job skills, or pretty much anything.

        He responds:

        Yeah that’s bull crap. Diversity visa applicants absolutely do need to have at least a high school education OR at least two years of work experience in a job that requires at least two years of training or experience.

        I checked this one and Mr Beats is right. The Diversity Visa program requirements include either having graduated high school, or two years working in a job with SVP score at least 7.

        For example, a city bus driver job has SVP of 4-6, and a commercial airlilne pilot has an SVP rating of 6-7. So basically, a commercial airline pilot might not qualify for the Diversity Visa program.

        So yes people this is how you get things done. This is a specific false claim made by PragerU:

        Diversity visa applicants don’t need a high school education, job skills, or pretty much anything.

        FALSE

        Next time would you mind doing a little of the legwork for me please? I can’t do everything around here.

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