Alternative: make a separate “selfhosted-ai” community for the sloperators.
this comment is a perfect example of what op was trying to prevent.
Knee-jerk “noise”!
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eksb@programming.dev 3 weeks ago
Alternative: make a separate “selfhosted-ai” community for the sloperators.
merde@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago - eksb@programming.dev 3 weeks ago
Please provide any input or alternative options on this,
The post asked for alternative options. I suggested an alternative option. It is not knee-jerk, and it is not noise.
brucethemoose@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
There already are.
I’d argue that Lemmy and piefed need a “sub community” or community taxonomy strucutre, but that’s kinda out of scope here.
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
For the grifters who promote the myth of “AI”. Let them have their own delusional echo chamber.
curbstickle_lw@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Just to point out a few projects that allow AI contributions:
If you want all projects related to AI in a different community, it may be easier for you to start “selfhosted_without_ai” or something.
mereo@piefed.ca 3 weeks ago
Indeed, AI is a tool, and humans should be experts who verify its work. What I don’t like are posts about apps that are completely vibe-coded without any thought put into them, which pose dangerous security risks.
curbstickle@anarchist.nexus 3 weeks ago
Thats the reasoning behind the disclosure bit, I agree its a tool, and great when used correctly.
But if you try and use a hammer like a drill, you’re gonna have a bad time.
It is not ‘just a tool.’ It is not “great.” Too many people focus on how it is used and not how it is created, how it affects us, and how it affects the world.
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
There is absolute zero “AI” involved in the development of any of these.
curbstickle_lw@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I think you may be misunderstanding the terminology here.
AI is a general term. LLMs are a subset, as are ML, DL, ANNs, NLP, CV, Expert models, etc.
Today you would define what we have as ANI, where the “N” stands for “Narrow”. This is also known as “weak” AI.
What you’re referring to would be called AGI, where the “G” stands for “General”, where an AI would have a human degree of intelligence. This is pure concept today, and does not exist.
Also on the list would be ASI, where the “S” is for “Super”, where the AI in question has more collective intelligence than humanity across all domains. This is purely hypothetical.
But AI has existed for decades. The first application I know if is Dendral, which as created in the 1950s to analyze mass spectrometry data to identify organic molecules. This was what’s called an Expert model - basically a lot of if-then statements, and led to things like MYCIN.
We don’t need to redefine words here.