Comment on Apple is sending out checks for ‘batterygate’ class action claims

farcaster@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• Alchemy@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  How would this impact the phones water resistance, I wonder? A removable battery would require some sort of user serviceable (breakable) seal on the door.

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  • trainden@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The Samsung Galaxy XCover6 Pro has a replaceble while being IP68 dust/water resistant, which means it can be submerged in water up to 1.5m/5ft for 35 min.

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    • Daveyborn@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I remember my s5 being decent and easy enough to swap batteries. Side note that was the last phone I had that actually survived me until it was too old to go on.

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    • astraeus@programming.dev ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I think there’s a couple of market motivations to not make phones with replaceable batteries.

      The first, most enticing is definitely gating repairs. Now that right-to-repair laws are picking up steam, that one is starting to fall apart.

      The second one is minification, they want to make smaller phones, more lightweight phones, and unibody constructions make that goal easier. You have to incorporate seals and locking mechanisms on a battery door if you want to achieve the same level of water-resistance current unibody phones have. This one is also flimsy, they could design a smaller phone with these features if they wanted to put money into R&D for it, but they likely currently don’t care enough.

      The last one is brand integrity. Apple specifically has a design language that many customers are familiar with, if they drastically change and break apart their design with big changes it could have an impact on how customers view the company. This one is probably the most ambiguous, I’m sure Apple has determined over 20 years the level of impact changing designs too much in a generation can have on their bottom line, they likely wouldn’t suffer much. Until this point there hasn’t been much motivation for them to do this.

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  • wolo@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Personally I would rather they had to make phones a little thicker again to include a properly sealed battery compartment, the new ones look very nice but it’s too hard to get a decent grip without accidentally bumping the edge of the screen.

    Maybe the whole back side of the phone is the battery, and the two sides are independently watertight? The charger port and usb controller could be on the battery too, that way you can replace it if it breaks or you want to be compatible with a new fast charging specification, and you could charge it independently if you have more than one.

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  • smajl@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Siemens M35

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  • farcaster@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Good question. I imagine they could still make the internals of the phone waterproof. Getting your phone wet might destroy the battery but not the expensive phone. If they can make waterproof phones with USB-C ports which provide power then they should be able to make waterproof phones with a hidden “port” for the battery under a cover.

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    • GreatAlbatross@feddit.uk ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I remember getting my first waterproof phone (Z), every port had a flap over it. The only exception was a special docking connector, that took +5v and gnd. And I thought (at the time) “that makes sense, all the other jacks probably can’t be waterproof”.

      Then 6 months later, I was handed the Z1, complete with waterproof 3.5mm jack.
      Another year later, the Z3 had a waterproof charging port too.

      It definitely feels like these things are gradually possible, if the manufacturer actually wants to achieve it.

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