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KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

Listen to a large cities broadcast for a while, there’s no crazy info being shared. There’s no reason for a cop to be talking about a victim beyond general terms where PII is concerned for the most part. They take that info down, but that’s about it. They aren’t saying “Mary sue at 411 Texas Roadhouse Drive, the 41 year old woman who drives a red sedan, was stabbed by her dog.” They’re going to say “requesting ems for a stab wound near Texas Roadhouse drive and Kentucky fried chicken way.”

And again, all of that info is available to the public regardless. Unless the cops are doing their job wrong and/or doing shady shit at least. You can even FOIA body cam footage, which is going to contain all that radio chatter anyway.

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Kusimulkku@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
They probably have to be (or try to be) vague about it, sending info through other means because it’s unencrypted and broadcasted to everyone. But when I listened to, there were addresses, license plates, what was happening and so on. You need to exchange some level of info, would be pointless to have the radios otherwise. And when exchanging such info, better to have it be encrypted.

And again, all of that info is available to the public regardless

And yet you’re unwilling to indiscriminately broadcast the info here. Even if you don’t seem to knowingly recognize the difference between the info being public in some form and broadcasting it indiscriminately to anyone wanting to listen, you don’t want to share it here because you know it’s different.

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- KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  
  And yet you’re unwilling to indiscriminately broadcast the info here
  
  I’ve had my license plate run before, it’s been broadcast over the county radio system, and I couldn’t care less.
  
  I’ve also had my name in the newspaper, again I don’t really care.
  
  I’d be more than happy telling random people offline my license plate number, because I don’t care.
  
  In fact, I myself have said my license plate number over an open radio frequency.
  
  But you’re essentially asking me to dox myself and remove my online anonymity, which is a major difference. It’s not comparable to having the info randomly said over an open radio, it just isn’t.
  
  You know what else I would do over a radio, but not here? Announce my name. Mention the city I live in. Say my address. All specifically because I’m using this username.
  
  Now, if this was legitimately anonymous, impossible to trace, a username not connected to me? Fuck yeah, I’d say my license plate. Because it would be meaningless. A drop in the bucket of millions of license plates. But you’re asking me to connect my identities.
  
  Even if you don’t seem to knowingly recognize the difference between the info being public in some form and broadcasting it indiscriminately to anyone wanting to listen, you don’t want to share it here because you know it’s different.
  
  The difference you’re talking about is all down to level of effort. On one hand I can listen to a radio, on the other I submit a form online (and get a hell of a lot more detail.)
  
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  - Kusimulkku@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    I’m asking you to broadcast your license plate on open internet with enough info to connect it to a certain situation, as might happen when stuff is said on radio for anyone to hear. Sucky situation, especially if you’re a victim of a crime.
    
    They should’ve encrypted it a long ago.
    
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    KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    I think you’re well aware that a username with death threats, linking with a real identity, is much different than broadcasting “run this license plate is it clean?”
    
    And why exactly are we broadcasting the license plate of a victim?…
    
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