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vegantomato@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

Happens every time. Yes, we can say that it happens almost every time. You are arguing against a very obvious fact of life. A father is a leader to his family. A teacher has authority in the classroom. An employer has authority in the workspace. When you want to efficiently combat criminals, you need commanders (detectives), like in the police. In general, you are going to have disputes between people regarding choice A or choice B. Leadership can resolve such disputes efficiently.

I am not limited to conceptions that require a leader. How about several leader? Because you are not going to escape leadership completely. If you are a functioning member of society, you will have a leadership role over someone, and you yourself will have leaders. It does not mean that you worship them or that you are worshiped, nor does it mean that they have to be tyrants who take other people’s rights, or that you take other people’s rights.

I’m telling you this because you seem to have a very skewed idea of what leadership is supposed to be. You seem to think that it is nothing more than imposition of one’s own will over others.

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irmoz@reddthat.com ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

Yes, we can say that it happens almost every time

…Never seen someone just straight up admit that they were bullshitting. Props to you.

You are arguing against a very obvious fact of life

Citation needed.

A father is a leader to his family

Citation needed.

A teacher has authority in the classroom

Citation needed.

An employer has authority in the workspace

Citation needed.

I’m getting bored of saying this over and over. Just apply it to the whole comment.

If you are a functioning member of society, you will have a leadership role over someone, and you yourself will have leaders

I suppose I’m not functional, then, because I do not “lead” anyone, not am I “led” by anyone. Stop projecting your opinions on to society at large - you’ll find that your opinion is just that; an opinion. Not a fact.

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- vegantomato@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  
  …Never seen someone just straight up admit that they were bullshitting. Props to you. >Just to be clear - you do realise that the thing that “happens every time” is people >claiming not to be married to the idea of society being led by an individual, then >going on to argue that this is the only way?
  
  I don’t mind power structures, not only that, I believe that they are necessary. As long as those given power do not abuse it, there are no problems.
  
  Secondly, the only one here bullshitting is you, and I will tell you why.
  
  Citation needed.
  
  So you are telling me, that as an employee, you can do whatever you want at work or not even show up at all, because you have no authorities above you? Or even better, maybe you think that when you are fulfilling your duties at work, you do so purely because you are interested in doing so. Not because you have to earn your salary, which you then must use to pay for your home and put food on the table in order to live.
  
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