Comment on 40% of US electricity is now emissions-free

• sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  What I think is interesting is just how variable it is. This Wikipedia article breaks it down by state. There’s no obvious political explanation here, and even very similar states have very different energy production.

  For example, here’s the top 10 (with 2016/2020 presidential party vote):

  1. Vermont (D) - 99.7%
  2. South Dakota ® - 82.7%
  3. Washington (D) - 81.9%
  4. New Hampshire (D) - 71.6%
  5. Idaho ® - 70.2%
  6. Maine (D) - 66.1%
  7. Oregon (D) - 65%
  8. Illinois (D) - 64.5%
  9. South Carolina ® - 60.8%
  10. Kansas ® - 60.8%

  And the bottom 10 (ignoring DC):

  41 - Massachusetts (D) - 17.8%
  42 - Ohio ® - 17.4%
  43 - Florida ® - 17.4%
  44 - Missouri ® - 16.6%
  45 - Utah ® - 12.4%
  46 - Indiana ® - 9.8%
  47 - Kentucky ® - 7.6%
  48 - Rhode Island (D) - 7.2%
  49 - West Virginia ® - 5.1%
  50 - Delaware (D) - 3.2%

  So 6/10 of the top 10 are states that voted Democrat, and 7/10 of the bottom 10 are states that voted Republican. That trend doesn’t really tell the story though (3 of the next 5 voted Republican), which is really interesting because it’s such a political talking point at the national level (e.g. Dems are in favor of green energy, Reps are in favor of fossil fuels).

  Even some very similar, adjacent states have very different generation numbers:

  • Alabama (43%) vs Mississippi (20%)
  • Idaho (70%) vs Utah (12%)
  • Tennessee (59%) vs Kentucky (8%)

  So there’s a lot of progress that can be made at the low end by pointing at their neighbors.

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  • SimplyATable@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The states themselves are different. The state I live in (washington) is about 70% hydroelectric for example, and that just wouldn’t work in a lot of other places

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    • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Sure, WA is an outlier because of its geography (more consistent rivers), but other states that are very similar to each other have huge differences. So it’s not something that’s easily explained by geography or local politics.

      I see two possibilities here:

      • US stagnates at some percent because the bottom states refuse to change
      • bottom states follow their neighbors’ lead and renewable adoption accelerates

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      • KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        ultimately, it’s going to be economic, if for example, nuclear becomes the cheapest form of energy, it’s going to become really popular, spread rapidly, develop quickly, become cheaper, safer, and eventually any state with some amount of sense in it is going to switch over, regardless of political status.

        It just doesn’t make sense to support coal when energy is cheaper and safer coming from another source.

        The only other way it would go is federal regulation or subsidies.

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  • wikibot@lemmy.world [bot] ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Here’s the summary for the wikipedia article you mentioned in your comment:

    This is a list of U.S. states by total electricity generation, percent of generation that is renewable, total renewable generation, percent of total domestic renewable generation, and carbon intensity in 2021.

    ^article^ ^|^ ^about^

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  • AnneBonny@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    What I think is interesting is just how variable it is.

    The states themselves are very different from each other.

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  • ironeagl@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Try breaking it down by county.

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• TheGreenGolem@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Wait. That’s how averages work? The more you know…

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