Comment on Steam keeps on winning

• derpgon@programming.dev ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Monopoly isn’t bad (or illegal) if it doesn’t exploit and/or abuse it’s market position, which Steam doesn’t.

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  • Honytawk@lemmy.zip ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Monopolies are always bad. They give too much power to the people who do not deserve it. Even if the one in charge looks benevolent.

    Tell me, what do you think would happen if Gabe died tomorrow?

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  • darreninthenet@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Also it depends what’s driving that attitude… if it’s an ethos from Gabe then great but he won’t be around forever… what happens when he dies/retires?

    Many companies have started with great ethics that went out of the window when the founders moved on, and Steam is in a fantastic position to enshitify if it wanted to.

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    • derpgon@programming.dev ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      That’s a lot or what-ifs. If a lot of companies enshittify, that doesn’t mean all do. Especially when Valve is not publicly traded (sure, “for now”). It has a lot of credibility, especially compared to other launchers (EA, Ubi, Bethesda, Battle.net). And while there is GOG which is a great launcher aswell especially by selling games without DRM, it’s one in a million.

      By your logic, we shouldn’t trust any company because they can all enshittify.

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      • darreninthenet@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        If you replaced “company” with “monopoly” in your last sentence, I agree.

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  • c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Monopolies are bad. Period. End of story.

    You probably identify as leftist yet here you are shilling for corporate capitalism the moment you like the product.

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    • derpgon@programming.dev ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I don’t identify as neither, I do no follow politics, nor do I care about some left right bullshit.

      But yeah, if a product is good, I do recommend it if there is discussion. Your regular Joe is not gonna build his own home printer, he goes to the store and either buys an HP, or a Brother. They don’t know how to pirate games, they go to a launcher and buy it there.

      You have to understand that not everyone has the freedom to choose, because they simply don’t have time or don’t give a fuck, and settle for something that someone recommends.

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  • Aux@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    But it does abuse its market position. By setting very high developer/publisher fees and forcing everyone to pay them. Don’t forget that from Steam perspective, developers and publisher are their consumers, not you. Their business is similar to supermarkets. Supermarkets don’t see stuff to you, they provide selling services to produce manufacturers.

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    • derpgon@programming.dev ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      But those fees are counteracted by large user base, which is large due to the fact the platform is great and provides it’s users good features that aren’t elsewhere. A s large user base means large buying power, which directly translates to higher sales and thus higher profits.

      If a supermarket gives the customers a nice place to stay, and provides extra features others don’t, the extra cost for having your store in there (in Steam terms higher commissions, although I personally think it’s adequate, but I digress) is offset by having bigger profit overall.

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      • Aux@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        That doesn’t mean Steam doesn’t abuse its power. Because they sure do.

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• coffeebiscuit@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Cheese and a cheese slicer.

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  • c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    You missed an opportunity to say “coffee and biscuits” and I’ve never been more disappointed 😔

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    • coffeebiscuit@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I failed myself 😓

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• chitak166@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Sorry you got swindled into buying games on a bunch of different launchers.

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  • c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I’ve not been “swindled” into anything, I’ve never paid for shit twice and I get most of my games DRM free on GOG. I use Epic exclusively for their free games.

    I’m just sick of hearing Gabe’s personal blowjob brigade pretending that monopolies and capitalism don’t apply when it’s a product they personally enjoy.

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