Most non-business Internet service in the IS has email ports blocked. They don’t open unless you switch to business class Internet and that’s $$$
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roofuskit@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Very interested in this as Gmail is one of my last Google cords to cut. But it doesn’t solve the issue of trying to host it from a non-commercial Internet connection. Last I remember most ISPs won’t let you open the ports required to run an email service on a home connection. Anyone have modern experience with that?
AtariDump@lemmy.world 6 months ago
victorz@lemmy.world 6 months ago
That’s insane to me. How is that a free and open Internet? Should be illegal.
AtariDump@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Too many people get malware that setup an email server and start sending out spam/phishing emails.
victorz@lemmy.world 5 months ago
That’s interesting. Is it easily preventable?
roofuskit@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Thanks for confirming. So pay for a vps to run this on, or just pay an email provider.
jagoan@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Gmail to MXroute when Google threatened to pull the grandfathered free Gmail custom domain thing. Got their lifetime plan, easy enough to configure so outgoing mails don’t get marked as spam. However, the major downside is it’s still using Spam Assassin as spam filter.
nutbutter@discuss.tchncs.de 6 months ago
I moved from Gmail to ProtonMail, then to Mailbox.org. Ypu can set up a mailserver on your home server, but you would need a VPS that would forward the traffic to and from your home server without you needing to open any ports. This guide can help you with TLS passthrough.
But setting up your own mailserver is a big hassle. Just pay a trusted provider and keep your inbox, and preferably all emails, encrypted with GPG.
victorz@lemmy.world 6 months ago
What made you switch from Proton to Mailbox, if you don’t mind sharing?
nutbutter@discuss.tchncs.de 5 months ago
I was paying $7/m for their mail, VPN and drive services. One of my major reasons to switch was their lack of linux support. They claim that it is hard to find Linux developers. Second reason was their drive’s download and upload speeds were terrible, from where I am sitting. Their VPN service is great. I always got great speeds, but their linux apps have always been terrible. Their mail service is also great, but I would like more control over it, like Mailbox.org. on Mailbox, I can encrypt my inbox using a different key, while also having the SMTP submission feature. I really ned that to integrate emails with my websites and services. Mailbox can also encrypt their cloud drive with our key, while also providing WebDAV support (how cool is that). Their mail app on android is open-source but is not available on f-droid. And the apk they provide on their website neither has a notification functionality, nor does it auto-update. Another reason was that I was limited to 3 custom domains, unless I buy their business plan. Mailbox has no such limit.
One final reason was that I did not want to keep all my apples in one basket. So, for mail, I am using mailbox, for storage, I am using a personal nextcloud and a Hetzner managed nextcloud, for VPN, I started using mullvad, but their speeds are terrible and connections are unreliable. For passwords I am using self-hosted vaultwarden.
There are a few more reasons that I do not remember, now. Proton is great, I still trust them. But these small things really go a long way.
victorz@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Thank you for that detailed reply. You have far greater needs than I do. 😊
It would be cool to do all these things and self-host. One day I’ll get there, in life.
ssdfsdf3488sd@lemmy.world 5 months ago
That’s pretty much exactly my story except I went with fastmail.com, mullvad for vpn (you really need to test with some script to find your best exit nodes I forget which one I used ages ago but it found me a couple of nodes about 1000 kms away from my location and in a different country that I can do nearly a gig through routinely… Maybe it was this script? github.com/bastiandoetsch/mullvad-best-server) . I went with pcloud for a bit but tailscale and now currently netbird make it kind of irrelevant since its’ so easy to get all my devices able to communicate back to my house file server. I want to like hetzner so bad but every time I try it the latency to north america just kills me and the north american offering was really far away and undeveloped last time Itried it