Comment on Warning: You cannot delete posts or comments on Lemmy. It stays up forever, and is in direct violation of GDPR and other national privacy laws.

• Excrubulent@slrpnk.net ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Okay, since you clearly carefully read and completely agree and support eveything in the Lemmy TOS, please tell me where it says it will keep your comments forever.

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  • ttmrichter@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    You’ll find that in the ActivityPub specifications, actually, where delete messages are optional to implement.

    The choice of how it implements ActivityPub’s optional components you’ll find in the Lemmy (or other Fediverse) source code.

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    • Excrubulent@slrpnk.net ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      So do we expect every user to read, understand, accept and agree with the specifications and sourcd code of lemmy before they make an account, and having done so, never make any complaints about it?

      This isn’t a difficult calculation - that person was effectively saying “yet you participate in lemmy” as a reason to dismiss any criticism. That should be on the face of it ridiculous. I don’t understand why anyone is taking their side except as a knee-jerk defense of their favourite platform.

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      • ttmrichter@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Lemmy isn’t my favourite platform. Not even close. I’m not sure it’s even in my top ten.

        What I am attacking is the rampant ignorance over a fundamental aspect of technology. A distributed system by its very nature has copies. Sometimes the copies last for a few milliseconds (think your router) and sometimes the copies last effectively forever (think the Internet Archive). And there is nothing you as the user can do to change this. There is also nothing that prevents someone from making the delete side of things not delete things. (Yes, this includes your router. How do you think “wiretaps” of modern digital communications systems work?)

        In the case of ActivityPub this is even more egregious a level of ignorance. The entire point of federated software is to copy and spread content, so if you have even half a brain cell you’re going to have to know that there will be copies of everything you’ve ever posted on servers other than the one you posted it to. And yet we have stupid twats like the OP whining about the GDPR as if it is even slightly meaningful in a distributed system that crosses outside of EU’s jurisdiction.

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  • BraveSirZaphod@kbin.social ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I'm not saying that the terms can't be more transparent, because they absolutely can be.

    But if you have become aware of this practice and you continue to participate, you have de facto agreed to it. You can of course agree to the terms and continue to criticize them, but you don't get to sign up for a soccer game and then claim that the rules against using your hands don't actually apply to you. If you don't want to face the consequences of how distributed services like this fundamentally work, don't use them.

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