Comment on Warning: You cannot delete posts or comments on Lemmy. It stays up forever, and is in direct violation of GDPR and other national privacy laws.

• BraveSirZaphod@kbin.social ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I mean, yes?

  If you do not agree to the terms of a service, do not use the service. This is the case for essentially every system ever. You can go complain about it on Reddit or something if you like.

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  • Excrubulent@slrpnk.net ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Okay, since you clearly carefully read and completely agree and support eveything in the Lemmy TOS, please tell me where it says it will keep your comments forever.

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    • ttmrichter@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You’ll find that in the ActivityPub specifications, actually, where delete messages are optional to implement.

      The choice of how it implements ActivityPub’s optional components you’ll find in the Lemmy (or other Fediverse) source code.

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      • Excrubulent@slrpnk.net ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        So do we expect every user to read, understand, accept and agree with the specifications and sourcd code of lemmy before they make an account, and having done so, never make any complaints about it?

        This isn’t a difficult calculation - that person was effectively saying “yet you participate in lemmy” as a reason to dismiss any criticism. That should be on the face of it ridiculous. I don’t understand why anyone is taking their side except as a knee-jerk defense of their favourite platform.

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    • BraveSirZaphod@kbin.social ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I'm not saying that the terms can't be more transparent, because they absolutely can be.

      But if you have become aware of this practice and you continue to participate, you have de facto agreed to it. You can of course agree to the terms and continue to criticize them, but you don't get to sign up for a soccer game and then claim that the rules against using your hands don't actually apply to you. If you don't want to face the consequences of how distributed services like this fundamentally work, don't use them.

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• SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  It took this person 20 days to post this. They didn’t create their account to post it, ergo, they figured it out after the fact.

  If they really had an issue with stuff like this, why pray-tel weren’t they already doing their due diligence to ensure that the service they were signing up for didn’t violate the GDPR in ways they didn’t like? That seems like a gross oversight by someone clearly incensed by it.

  (Also, it continues to be questionable whether it’s actually breaking GDPR rules, and even in that regard, it would be individual server admins responsible for enforcing GDPR compliance.)

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  • Excrubulent@slrpnk.net ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    (Also, it continues to be questionable whether it’s actually breaking GDPR rules, and even in that regard, it would be individual server admins responsible for enforcing GDPR compliance.)

    Wow I can’t believe you’re criticising the policy that you agreed to when you made your account. Sounds like you need to delete your account and take that kind of talk elsewhere.

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    • SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You know, it’s clear you’re not arguing in good faith or taking what I’ve said in good faith, instead of choosing the most uncharitable interpretation you can to get a “gotcha,” so I think we’re done here.

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      • Excrubulent@slrpnk.net ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Where’s the lie?

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• magnetosphere@kbin.social ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I don’t agree with that reasoning. It’s entirely possible for someone to be personally accepting of Lemmy’s privacy issues, but make an intelligent, well informed, coherent critique of them.

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  • Excrubulent@slrpnk.net ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Like perhaps the OP did? Seems like they had to personally accept the TOS, or at least tolerate it, but they also have a critique.

    I also still don’t see how “yet you participate in lemmy” is a real answer.

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    • magnetosphere@kbin.social ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I don’t think “yet you participate in Lemmy” is an especially good answer, either. The same reasoning applies.

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