Fast-charging an EV for an hour would use the same amount of electricity a home would likely use in a day.
phoneymouse@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Electric vehicles use a huge amount of power that many solar systems may not be able to accommodate, in addition to the regular usage load of the house. Keep in mind that the electrification dream is to also run HVAC and hot water off of electricity too. Also, in terms of charging your car, you’ll usually be at home charging overnight when the sun isn’t out. Sure, you can install a battery, but the capacity of these power walls is puny compared to the needs of an electric car.
Not saying we shouldn’t try at home solar or that it won’t work for some folks, but it’s not a silver bullet. A lot of people will still be drawing from the grid, even with solar and back up batteries,
hiremenot_recruiter@discuss.tchncs.de 9 months ago
partial_accumen@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Eh, not that huge. Summertime AC electrical consumption is about triple what my monthly EV home charging consumes.
This is true that many are smaller systems (say 8kw or so of installed capacity). However, unless you’re an extremely heavy use EV driver, you’re not likely draining your EV battery flat everyday. Many folks may only be using 10%-30% or less for their daily driving. This represents 3-5 hours of “middle grade” home EV charging current (ballpark of 25A-30A at 240v AC charging).
Even most Solar PV installs aren’t 100% replacement of household electrical consumption.
This is where different state laws come in and make it weird and not a one-size-fits-all answer. For many states (like mine) I have “1 to 1 net metering” meaning if I push 1kw of electricity to the grid because I’m generating more than I need at that time, I can later pull that 1kw back from the grid when my generation is lower or my demand is higher and its a net zero cost to me. So if I push 8kw to the grid during the bright sunny day over what I’m consuming in my home, I can put that 8kw back into the EV at night charging and its like I put it in a battery.
There are some states moving away from 1 to 1 net metering or even less advantageous ratios like 1:2.
Agreed. For some numbers, a single Tesla Powerwall charged to 100% would be able to charge a Tesla Model 3 Long Range from 0% to about 33% before the Powerwall would be empty.
Nothing is a silver bullet that matches everyone’s consumption and house solar capacity. The cool part is nothing needs to be. Even a partial benefit is a benefit. With the government incentives, the Solar PV system I’m getting will have full payback of the cost in about 7-10 years. After that I’ll still be generating 95%-ish of the rated value of the panels, but have another 15-25 years of nearly free electricity*.
I’m also getting small battery capacity because of more frequent difficulties with electrical outages, but they are NOT cost effective. However, my need isn’t about cost for the batteries but instead high need of constant electrical availability.
*nearly free because I’m counting on a few small things breaking and needing to be replaced or serviced.