No, let’s not. Or at least figure out a better theory this time.
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andrewrgross@slrpnk.net 1 year agoWhat if we transition away from capitalism non-magically?
fosforus@sopuli.xyz 1 year ago
prole@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
Why don’t you take a list of countries by quality of life from some point in the past decade or two, and see which nations seem to always top it.
fosforus@sopuli.xyz 1 year ago
Yes, capitalist free-market countries exclusively. That’s the thing I’d rather not have others break.
prole@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
Do you not know what a “mixed economy” is? Did you even look at a list? Denmark, Norway, Sweden… You think these are "capitalist free-market countries"and that’s why they top the list?
The reason those countries are at the top of the list for quality of life is because they have regulations on their markets, and robust social safety nets.
Maybe actually do a few minutes of honest, open minded research about quality of life.
assembly@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I mean that’s probably the preferred path but I can’t see how that realistically happens. There are too many individuals globally with too much to lose that will think their loss of capital is worth bringing down the whole human race. I’m sure they would rather see the world in ashes rather than succeed under an alternate system where they may not be on top.
colforge@lemmy.world 1 year ago
It’s not even about being on top or being worried about losing status - I’d be fine with giving up what little I have to see a better world. The problem is that a pivot away from capitalism isn’t going to happen without violent revolution, because it would absolutely be met with violent resistance.
I wouldn’t support something that would be guaranteed to thrust my children and grandchildren into a world of chaos, uncertainty, and tragedy that would unavoidably arise during and potentially after a revolution of that scale. And someone has to be holding the levers of power in the end, and how do we guarantee that we don’t just end up shuffling the deck around but playing the exact same game?
It’s easy to be idealistic and say “this isn’t working” but it’s a whole lot harder to convince enough people to dismantle it and deal with the consequences rather than attempt to effect incremental change over a long term.
andrewrgross@slrpnk.net 1 year ago
I think there’s a credible case to be made that moving toward socialism has benefits even for the wealthy, and that the change doesn’t have to be presented as the end of capitalism.