Comment on What does your 'home' instance really matter?
simple@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Really the biggest effect your home instance has is who you’re defederated with. Your instance admin can choose to defederate with an instance at any time, blocking your communication with that instance.
For most instances this isn’t a real problem because nobody defederates without a clear reason, but in some cases like Beehaw users were upset that the admin decided to defederate with instances they use.
djc0@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I recently signed up and didn’t know where to park myself. So I got accounts on both lemmy.world and beehaw.org.
From lemmy.world I’ve added to a few of the beehaw subs that I’m subscribed to there. But I can tell you I see different content in my lemmy.world feed.
Don’t know why. A delay in the content making it over from beehaw to lemmy? But my home feed certainly looks different in both (even subscribing as closely is I can to the same feeds).
So for now I’ll stick with both and see how the dust settles.
simple@lemm.ee 11 months ago
It’s because Beehaw defederated with most of the popular instances. Their communities still exist but none of the posts will come through to Lemmy World and vice versa, they can’t see any new posts in Lemmy World communities.
IMO just stick to lemmy world and avoid beehaw communities (they’re effectively dead for us) unless you want a “safe space” and live in the small Beehaw instance.
solidgrue@lemmy.world 11 months ago
That’s a little harsh. I was here before beehaw defederated, and the content over there was high quality. Some bad actors spoiled it for everyone over here.
Hopefully they’ll be back once the mod tools for cross-instance content management improve.
No need to sneer at them, it was a community decision. You can still interact wth the content on most other instances than .world and .itjust.works
damnYouSun@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
I think they were being a bit unreasonable in expecting everyone else to have verified sign-ups. It would be prohibitively difficult to verify all of the users especially with the recent influx.
If the other instances had tried that I think Lemmy would be dead on arrival. It would have taken so long to verify each user that most people would have got bored by the time they’re approval came through and would never have even bothered signing in.
djc0@lemmy.world 11 months ago
But I still see some posts at eg gaming@beehaw.org from lemmy.world. And comments and votes. But maybe 20% of what I see if I’m looking from my beehaw account.
Could these be crossposts and comments from non-beehaw users? Ie stuff that hasn’t originated at beehaw?
simple@lemm.ee 11 months ago
So basically anything posted in defederated communities won’t be federated. So someone on Lemmy World posting on Beehaw communities can only be seen by Lemmy World users and nobody else. Everyone should find alternative communities instead.
Monologue@lemmy.zip 11 months ago
or you can join a smaller instance that beehaw has not defederated and interact with both beehaw and lemmy.world communities
djc0@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Doesn’t defederated mean cut off? Because I certainly get beehaw content at lemmy.world. Just when sorting by “hot” seems different. Then averaged over a bunch of subs, my home feed is quite different.
Anyway 🤷♂️
Monologue@lemmy.zip 11 months ago
that should be because lemmy.world did not defederate with beehaw, it only happened one way.
federation is not perfect, it might take a while for posts and comments to sync up so you might be able to see differences because of that. also in a smaller instance you might have to search the community by it’s full name to start federation (if nobody subscribed to that community first from your instance), luckily lemmyverse exists so you can search there first then look it up.
hope this helps :3
Silviecat44@aussie.zone 11 months ago
Beehaw just cant see what you post i think
confusedbytheBasics@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Same here. One when I want to keep it polite and the other when I want a little more freedom.