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yuki2501@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

If you don’t give a shit abount Facebook enabling genocide, amplifying white supremacism or, you know, selling milluons of users’ private data to the Kremlin, then sure, why not.

This isn’t about elitism, this is about a known bad actor threatening to harvest our conversations without our fucking permission, or using Microsoft’s tactic of “embrace and extend” to destroy the competition.

Anyone can implement ActivityPub. We have no problem with that. Facebook is a corporation whose business strategy has consistently been about harvesting users’ data and selling it to political advertisers.

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csm10495@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Even if you defederate they can harvest the data… I mean it’s an open protocol.

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lemmyingly@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Why are you only concerned about Facebook doing what you describe?

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- ttmrichter@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Ah. Whataboutism … but lacking the courage to even name the other whatabouts. Top-notch disputation that!
  
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  - TheLurker@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    If I name instances in the ML sphere posting clearly anti western propaganda, hate speech and the questionable impartiality of rule enforcement in the fediverse, are you going to cry foul?
    
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    ttmrichter@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    It’s certainly better than just alluding to them with stuff that would embarrass a vaguebooking teen.
    
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  - lemmyingly@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Gibberish
    
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    ttmrichter@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Yes it is, but it’s not your fault. You can only manage to type a single word at a time before forming a full sentence even.
    
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- TheLurker@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  That would be because bandwagoning is the lowest form of virtue signalling.
  
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TheLurker@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
All things that exist already in Lemmy.

And only admins of an instance could artificially prioritise posts on the fediverse, and only on their instance.

Bots, shills and bad actors exist on all platforms to inflate posts and opinions.

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- yuki2501@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  You don’t seem to understand the issue. Facebook IS the bad actor. They’ll allow racists, nazis and all kinds of assholes just as long as they get their sweet advertising money.
  
  Instance admins moderate according to community rules. Zuck moderates according to what’s most profitable.
  
  To put it another way, imagine reddit started federating with Lemmy, and suddenly all the users from TheDonald started harassing our political forums. If that sounds bad, remember how many fake accounts ran by shills and foreign states (read: Russia) appeated on Facebook between 2014 and 2017.
  
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- sour@kbin.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  facebook is on other level of bad
  
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Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

threatening to harvest our conversations without our fucking permission,

Public posts on social media are well public. There’s literally nothing that stops them from reading your posts without federation, and federation does very little to change that in a meaningful way.

or using Microsoft’s tactic of “embrace and extend” to destroy the competition

By what, adding features to Threads that make users prefer it over other ActivityPub implementations? The worst case here is that Meta federates, then does something that breaks federation and their users don’t jump ship to another instance but stick with the Meta product?

Anyone can implement ActivityPub. We have no problem with that.

So long as they aren’t a giant corp you personally see as especially evil, then if they implement ActivityPub they need to be blocked as globally as possible?

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