His gift was the gift of gab, and he was an asshole, but I will give him credit for co-founding Apple and for the NeXT and Pixar.
I think the NeXT was the most enjoyable desktop computing experience I’ve had in my life.
SapphironZA@lemmings.world 11 months ago
You got to say he was a master bullshitter, but he had some miracle workers engineers that made it happen.
His gift was the gift of gab, and he was an asshole, but I will give him credit for co-founding Apple and for the NeXT and Pixar.
I think the NeXT was the most enjoyable desktop computing experience I’ve had in my life.
sunbeam60@lemmy.one 11 months ago
In my career, I’ve learnt the hard way that every crowning achievement starts with a bullshitter being cursed by a bunch of engineers - the very same engineers who years later laud the bullshitter as the person with the tenacity to drive them to achieve greatness.
JdW@lemmy.world 11 months ago
GuyFleegman@startrek.website 11 months ago
Ken Kocienda, the engineer who led the team that created the original iPhone keyboard and predictive text system, wrote a book titled “Creative Selection: Inside Apple’s Design Process During the Golden Age of Steve Jobs.” So there’s at least one real engineer for you who speaks highly of Jobs.
They aren’t nameless. They write books and go on podcasts, their thoughts on Jobs are available to us. Plenty of them praise Jobs for driving them to do their best work.
sunbeam60@lemmy.one 11 months ago
Be careful, you’re stepping out of the “all bosses are capitalist, exploitative assholes and if you aren’t out in the field ploughing, you’ll be next against the wall in our cultural revolution”-zone that’s considered acceptable on Lemmy.
abhibeckert@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Jobs definitely pushed engineers to work harder than they would have otherwise.
For example he complained the first prototype iPod was too bulky. And when they said it can’t possibly be made any smaller he tossed it in a fish tank and pointed at the bubbles as proof that it could be made smaller - the prototype was full of empty space/air.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Yes he was a dick. Yay capitalism
sunbeam60@lemmy.one 11 months ago
JdW clearly thought not very much of my thoughts and someone decided the name-calling warranted a removal. That said, I’ve responded to JdW with a direct message to share some examples I’ve been part of in my time. I do believe it’s a pattern you come to recognise after 20+ years in software development.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Shit take
adrian783@lemmy.world 11 months ago
what’s your career?
Streetdog@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
Undertaker
sunbeam60@lemmy.one 11 months ago
Software development. I’ve been on both sides of the equation I’m describing above, many times. Looking back, a large part of the achievements I’ve been fortunate to be part of started with someone who said “we can totally do it” while we, the team, were mouthing “how the fuck are we going to do that?!”.
But you find a way, usually. That’s all I’m saying.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world 11 months ago
In other words, you’ve been the shitty boss like I had who would make unrealistic promises and then pretend it’s all okay you made everyone work all weekend because hey, you bought them pizza.
TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Found the bullshitter