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Chozo@kbin.social ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• Deceptichum@kbin.social ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Yes allowing corps into the Fediverse is very short-sighted.

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  • otter@lemmy.ca ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    While I’m cool with blocking threads.net, “we should block all corps from the Fediverse” doesn’t make sense and that’s not the reason we should use

    It’s fine if an instance wants to make that their policy, the fediverse gives an instance the freedom to do so, but it wouldn’t be useful to the users

    Other bad reasons:

    • “Meta can spy on us”: they can do that even without threads.net, and federating makes little difference there

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    • Sanyanov@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      We certainly should keep corps at a 1km pole from here.

      They come and ruin everything they tough in the name of profit. Can they force their way? Partially, maybe, in some ways. But if we welcome them with open doors, it will get way worse.

      Let’s keep this place tidy of bullshit, pretty please.

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      • otter@lemmy.ca ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        We can take precautions against their nonsense by enforcing the standards, and we can educate people about why it’s a problem. That becomes difficult if we just close off entirely

        I don’t think we should give up or welcome them with open doors, I just think there’s more nuance to it than “defederate from any fediverse thing tied to a for profit entity”

        Facebook’s case is special because of their nasty history with control and abuse, so if people want to be extra aggressive with them then sure

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    • Dieinahole@kbin.social ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Do you understand what corporations do?

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      • otter@lemmy.ca ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I’ve got some understanding yes

        I think most people here have a similar sentiment around corporations and big tech companies, which is why we’re on this platform and why we donate to keep them run by nonprofits

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  • Chozo@kbin.social ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It wasn't a roll-call.

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    • sour@kbin.social ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      why snark

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      • Chozo@kbin.social ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I'm snarky because I'm annoyed at seeing the constant FUD being lauded around here. Sorry if it comes off as hostile.

        Yes, Meta is a shit corp who doesn't deserve any free pass. However, ActivityPub wasn't built with exclusion in mind. Nor does the protocol allow Meta access to anything that you aren't already giving up freely to thousands upon thousands of other servers (many of whom cannot or will not respect your rights to data privacy) whenever you use any Fediverse platform.

        People who are scared of Meta joining the Fediverse simply do not understand how the Fediverse works, or misunderstand the design philosophy of ActivityPub.

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• TORFdot0@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  You are free to make your own Mastodon/Lemmy instance and federate with them. Being able to block instances is user choice which absolutely IS the point of ActivityPub. There is no one entity that says you must federate or must defederate.

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• sour@kbin.social ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  rude ._.

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