We can take precautions against their nonsense by enforcing the standards, and we can educate people about why it’s a problem. That becomes difficult if we just close off entirely

I don’t think we should give up or welcome them with open doors, I just think there’s more nuance to it than “defederate from any fediverse thing tied to a for profit entity”

Facebook’s case is special because of their nasty history with control and abuse, so if people want to be extra aggressive with them then sure