Comment on Mastodon founder touts Threads' federation, saying it makes his X rival 'a far more attractive option'

• GONADS125@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Okay but, we all know that already. This discussion is about federating with Lemmy/Fedi.

  Tell that to the astroturfers simping for FB/Threads…

  And do you understand how you reinforce an argument with supporting evidence? I wanted to establish factual information supporting a clear history of the company’s bad practices. That was/is relevant to consideration of federating with a platform.

  In fact, lemmy.world has already defederated with instances due to failure to moderate far-right extremism. So why would they federate with Threads when far-right extremism is already a systemic issue and they have admitted lemmy lacks the necessary moderation tools to manage Threads federation?

  It seems obvious to me that is a bad idea and it would cultivate a more toxic user experience with more recruitment for radicalism/extremism.

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  • helenslunch@feddit.nl ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Tell that to the astroturfers simping for FB/Threads…

    And do you understand how you reinforce an argument with supporting evidence?

    Wow, the fucking hypocrisy of those 2 statements in the same breath. Anybody who considers that this could actually be good for the fedi is “simping for Meta”? What a fucking child.

    That was/is relevant to consideration of federating with a platform.

    It is not even in the slightest, unless such federation somehow supports Meta, which, to my knowledge, it does the opposite. If you’d like to provide evidence to the contrary, I’m all ears. If you want to pull random accusations out of your ass about anyone who disagrees with you, you can take that shit elsewhere.

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    • GONADS125@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      There’s no hypocrisy; you’re just stating a false equivalence. Not to mention totally ignoring the entire argument about radicalization on threads/inability to moderate it on lemmy.

      And you keep stating that my points establishing character in regard to Meta/Threads are irrelevant, but you aren’t making a good argument as to why. You fixate on that as a strawman argument while ignoring my point that lack of moderation on threads will negatively affect fediverse communities with toxic/extremist content.

      You’re arguing like a petulant middle schooler with ad hominem and strawman tactics. Get back to me if you can speak like a grown-up. Otherwise I’m not going to engage with you. (Before you “no u” me with another false equivalence, my remarks were not on the same personal attack level.)

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  • SCB@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Tell that to the astroturfers simping for FB/Threads…

    No one is astroturfing lemmy. People who disagree with you are not paid actors. They just disagree with you.

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    • GONADS125@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I wasn’t referring to people disagreeing with me. I upvoted users I disagreed with in this post’s comments to promote discussion.

      I was referring to people that engage in disingenuous argumentative tactics clearly pushing an agenda, whose presence is also accompanied by what seems like blatant vote manipulation/brigading. This was present when Threads federation was originally a being discussed a little while back. That’s what I was referring to.

      I don’t think I’m going to go out of my way to track down examples, but you may be able to find some from the link to where my comment is originally from.

      You can also assume I’m wrong, and that’s okay by me. But astroturfing is absolutely a tactic Meta employs. Source

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      • SCB@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        TikTok is significantly larger and more worth it then lemmy

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    • pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Yes you are; you’ve been a lame-ass anti-disestablisment shill the entire time you’ve been here. Shut the hell up.

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      • SCB@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I do in fact disagree with you, yes

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