Please dont take this the wrong way - another user had a similar misunderstanding that I’m trying to clarify and understand - what do you think a promo post is? I ask because of your first comment, and this comment here about Plex.
Comment on Rule 2 Clarifications and New Rule proposal I’ve gotten through (I believe) a
non_burglar@lemmy.world 1 day agoUnless they are a closed source dev looking to promote.
I’m not, I swear!
Jokes aside, your example of Plex is a good one to illustrate that we’re not all at the same ratio of FOSS use, some of us have more or less of each.
curbstickle@anarchist.nexus 1 day ago
non_burglar@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Promotion of a software product? Not sure I understand where you’re coming from.
And now I’m doubly confused why you dont get the Plex reference.
curbstickle@anarchist.nexus 1 day ago
Promo posts are purely promotional by the people who made them - not a discussion post or anything, basically a post thats an ad.
With Plex it would be like the Plex marketing team coming in to post about the new features of Plex version whatever and the $10 discount on the new $750 lifetime pass.
It would not be something like:
- How do I get Plex to see my media correctly
- My famil6 are always seeing a relay message on Plex and its low quality
Etc.
The rule is only about those self promotional, sales style posts.
So I’m going to go ahead and try to update the rule for clarity now.
non_burglar@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Yeah, that tracks fine.
It’s the recent one where a person told this group about their app, asked if anyone was interested in beta testing in exchange for full paid app access for free.
I don’t think that person posted in bad faith. But the crowd here acted like an absolute mob, calling him names, telling him to f*ck off, etc.
That was handled poorly. And I don’t think your rule would address the abuse part, regardless of how much “community interaction” you made a requirement.
That’s my problem with these new guidelines, they don’t address the venom people have towards folks for not much justifiable reason. You can’t just bend to what the crowd wants, sometimes they want blood.
Symfonium is another paid example. Amazing app. Even with the new rules we can post about them. With that, I don’t understand your original complaint.
If you’re not pushing your paywalled stuff, it doesn’t affect you, does it?
non_burglar@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I’m not, but that shouldn’t be part of this conversation.
Where is the line for what you’re saying is “paywalled stuff”?
If someone promotes Plex, for example? Not allowed? What about deluxe features of homeassistant, which is fully open source, but paid?
> Promotional posts require community participation or they will be removed. No more than 10% of your posts or comments may be self-promotional, or your post will be removed. **F/LOSS Exception**: If your post is about a project that is completely open source & without any paywalls, it will be exempt from this rule.
To me, this says, if you’re posting something behind a paywall (F/LOSS or not) they’re going to look at your post history. If you’re a shill, it will be removed. If you’re someone who self hosts and just wants to talk about self hosted apps, you’re fine.
Said another way, if all you do is post promo content it’s not welcome here. If it’s a one off then post it.
Look, if you don’t like the rule, make a suggestion to the mods on how to make it better. The spirit here is we all love learning and using new tools paid or not. If you want to share something new to you, like Plex, I’m 100% sure its fine. Post, promote what you love, start a conversation around Plex. The problem is if you only ever talk about Plex and promote it. It gets old FAST and it’s not a community I want to he apart of.
curbstickle@anarchist.nexus 15 hours ago
Very well summarized, thank you.