Comment on The state of open source SMS messagers

Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• priapus@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  There is no open source RCS messaging app afaik

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• LWD@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I’m not sure how it’s more secure. End to end encryption is only available if the sender is using Google Messages, the receiver is using Google Messages, and IIRC if the transit server is Google Jibe. No Google, no encryption for you.

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  • nymwit@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Samsung messages has Google’s RCS implementation and E2EE, too.

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    • LWD@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Does it though? I haven’t had the ability to look at it, despite having a Samsung

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  • Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    You’re right, I’ve updated my reply… Hopefully someday that will be a generic RCS feature not exclusive to Google and/or Apple and Google will work to make the E2EE work between their two systems.

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    • LWD@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Apple said something along the lines of wanting to develop an encryption standard with the GSM Alliance. Which basically means the Alliance would represent two major companies instead of one. I’m not exactly holding my breath for what Apple’s standards will be, as iMessage is unsurprisingly not as good with encryption as Google Messenger (which uses Signal’s protocol at least).

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      • Natanael@slrpnk.net ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        If the MLS group messaging encryption protocol can get finalized any day soon then they might use that

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• smeg@feddit.uk ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Plenty of services still unfortunately rely on SMS for 2FA, so we’ll still need a client to receive them. Doesn’t really need to be able to send them though, I don’t think any human has sent an SMS message deliberately for about 12 years!

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  • scoobford@lemmy.one ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I don’t think any human has sent an SMS message deliberately for about 12 years!

    sweats nervously in American

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    • spacecowboy@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I don’t know anyone in Canada that isn’t a new Canadian that uses anything other than the default sms app on their phone. (FBM and Insta and what not don’t count in my example).

      SMS is alive and well in Canada.

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      • smeg@feddit.uk ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        My condolences. But seriously though, what if you want to have a group chat, or send a file?

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  • petrescatraian@libranet.de ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    @smeg Me and my friends use it as a fallback for mildly urgent stuff. If anything is more urgent, then we call each other.

    @Dark_Arc

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  • apis@beehaw.org ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    SMS is my primary mode of contact with the rest if the world. I use Signal as well, but most people I know only use SMS.

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    • smeg@feddit.uk ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      So how do you have group chats or send files with your non-Signal contacts?

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      • Jomn@jlai.lu ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        You don’t x)

        More seriously, in these cases, I often rely on emails instead. But I don’t really use group chats a lot (even with my contacts that are on Signal), nor send many files, so it’s not features I really miss.

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      • nymwit@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Group chats work over SMS. I use cloud links for large files or just SMS/MMS for pictures and you just live with the low quality if texting with an iPhone user.

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      • apis@beehaw.org ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        It has never occurred to me to do either of those things, and apparently hasn’t to anyone I’m in contact with either.

        Though I don’t use group chats or send files in Signal either, so there’s that.

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• LunchEnjoyer@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Quick question, is TCS mostly a protocol used in the US or something? Cos never heard of the term here in Europe. Maybe I just live under a rock tho.

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  • ginerel@kbin.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I am on Vodafone and I have it as well. I heard it's only available on the Google Messages app and on Samsung's app.

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  • Natanael@slrpnk.net ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    If you have a Samsung or use the Google SMS messaging app then you can use RCS via their servers, even in Europe

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