Comment on Senator Warren calls out Apple for shutting down Beeper's 'iMessage to Android' solution
Waluigis_Talking_Buttplug@lemmy.world 9 months agoIt’s not so much me being upset at fake internet points than it is at me being upset that I’ve been seeing how this place has changed since I joined, and it’s super easy for a place like this to become an echo chamber, especially when people are just asking questions. Genuine discussion is drowned out by people treating the vote system like Facebook likes
I wanted out of reddit long before the fiasco, and whenni got here it was way different than it’s starting to become
LilPappyWigwam@lemm.ee 9 months ago
Very much with you on that stance. However, this “bubble battle” is very much an echo chamber scenario, regardless where it’s discussed.
Heck, let me just ask you directly: why does Apple maintain such a divisive stance on the subject?
I haven’t gotten much (on several forums) regarding that question, more than “they choose too”.
Waluigis_Talking_Buttplug@lemmy.world 9 months ago
My only guess is that they developed a proprietary system and as a business want to maintain control of their proprietary system as one of the selling points to their hardware ecosystem.
Which, honestly, I get. Imagine you created something (and note, not invented) and someone decides you should be forced to share it simply because it sells better than what the other guys have.
My only argument against this is that there already are internet based end to end encryption messaging systems in place, both private and FOSS. It’s not like Apple has a monopoly on this type of technology or system.
LilPappyWigwam@lemm.ee 9 months ago
Yes but imagine in an established system, let’s use the US mail as an example, I create a stamp that meets the criteria of postage stamps but also (somehow; after all it is proprietary) requires the opening of the mailed parcel to be contingent upon something like watching an ad, or “signing in” unless you have a subscription at my fancy new parcel stamp company… I would most of us would not want to simply accept this “ecosystem” and would struggle with legitimizing it.
The sunken cost fallacy comes to mind; as those who have “subscribed” to such a business model don’t perceive themselves as inconvenienced… but only when comparing themselves to those who aren’t subscribed.
In the end, it feels like Apple is intentionally creating systemic division so that it’s customer base feels like they are a part of something exclusive (even if said exclusive content/system doesn’t appear to serve them in any way other than “feeling exclusive”).
Apple could very easily mitigate the echo chamber they have created. But they created it to serve the Apple shareholders, alone.
No?
Waluigis_Talking_Buttplug@lemmy.world 9 months ago
I think the argument comes in that, this actually doesn’t apply to those who don’t have said system. Imagine instead it’s a stamp that only applies differences if the recipient also subscribes to said stamp service. To everyone else, it’s just a regular letter. I can easily go use a different service of the same type to achieve the same benefits.
And yeah, they do use their system to benefit their shareholders, which is what businesses do with their proprietary services.
Im not arguing for or against this stuff by any means, just trying to play devils advocate as for why Apple would want to maintain control over it and why I think it’s odd that the government wants to get involved. I feel like companies like amazon do more impractical shit to maintain control over the market, but bubble colors just aren’t anywhere near the top of the list for things I think politicians need to spend time talking about.
I wouldn’t be upset if they forced apples hand, though, others have pointed out that it would even the competive market for other manufacturers