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winterayars@sh.itjust.works ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

Places like Lemmygrad and Hexbear are actually pretty benign. They’re just on the verge of being acceptable to people so they make a lot of noise and cause a lot of drama but in terms of the actual bad actors… well, as you can see, they don’t even rate.

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neidu@feddit.nl ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Agreed. While I tend to disagree with most of viewpoints coming from lemmygrad, at least the content is posted with benign intent. The room might stink, but nobody intentionally shat on the floor to piss people off.

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- lemann@lemmy.one ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  
  The room might stink, but nobody intentionally shat on the floor.
  
  I like this figure of speech a lot, stealing it 😁
  
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Socsa@sh.itjust.works ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Meh, I don’t really find the open mass murder fetish benign at all. I don’t care what color your fash is, it’s still abhorrent.

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- DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I guess it’s slightly better that they’re mostly honest deniers instead of “they had it coming” types.
  
  I think. I personally find it refreshing in small doses to deal with people that actually know what the fuck they’re talking about in terms of political theory, some of the shit .world users say is…
  
  Upsetting, intellectually.
  
  Of course, so is talking to a genuine Stalinist.
  
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  - Socsa@sh.itjust.works ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    My experience with hexbear has been pretty fucking far from them knowing political theory, outside of one very specific niche they can kind of articulate as long as you don’t ask them to reduce any of it to fundamentals or first principles.
    
    As far as I can tell, their one trick is quoting books they haven’t actually read, assuming nobody else has read them either. I’ve literally had this same interaction three or four times at this point, over books which don’t say the things they think they say. Like multiple people arguing that some Chomsky work supports their orthodox ML theory.
    
    You can literally get them to argue against the works they are trying cite. It’s amusing for a bit, but then it’s just sad.
    
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    DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Hexbear and Lemmygrad are different instances, but tbh at this point I’m just happy with people that can at least vaguely define liberalism and socialism, and I don’t have to see the great minds upvote “communism is right wing, AKSHUALLY, because right wing means authoritarian.”
    
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