Comment on Apple responds to the Beeper iMessage saga: ‘We took steps to protect our users’
autotldr@lemmings.world [bot] 11 months ago
This is the best summary I could come up with:
“We took steps to protect our users by blocking techniques that exploit fake credentials in order to gain access to iMessage,” Apple senior PR manager Nadine Haija said in a statement.
Beeper says its process works with no compromise to your encryption or privacy; the company’s documentation says that no one can read the contents of your messages other than you.
Apple has repeatedly made clear that it doesn’t want to bring iMessage to Android: “buy your mom an iPhone,” CEO Tim Cook told a questioner at the Code Conference who wanted a better way to message their Android-toting mother, and the company’s executives have debated Android versions in the past but decided it would cannibalize iPhone sales.
But Beeper Mini was exploiting the iMessage protocol directly, which clearly prompted Apple to tighten its security measures.
When I say that maybe Apple’s concern is that iPhone users are suddenly sending their supposedly Apple-only blue-bubble messages via a company — Beeper — they don’t know about, Migicovsky thinks about it for a second.
And Apple has made clear it intends to win that game, no matter how badly you want to send iMessages from an Android phone.
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CaptainSpaceman@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Sounds like more people should use Signal
BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 11 months ago
If you can get them to switch, I’d appreciate it.
I had people switching to Signal as their SMS replacement which was compelling for them. Then Signal dropped SMS support and those people reverted.
habanhero@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
SMS support isn’t really as big of a deal as the Internet blows it up to be. It’s a usage pattern primarily in the US where the most of the world had comfortably adapted to other messaging options (WhatsApp reins king in Latin America, LINE in SE Asia, WeChat in China…)
The whole iMessage / blue bubble envy is real but it’s totally overhyped.
BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 11 months ago
It gets people on board.
So yes, it’s that big of a deal. Without it, I have no way to convince people to switch.
And guess what, I live where that matters, so…
Dariusmiles2123@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
Or Threema since it’s from my country and we have a good privacy reputation 🇨🇭
Zak@lemmy.world 11 months ago
The problem with Threema is it costs money.
It’s not a lot of money. It’s not an unfair price. It’s completely reasonable to expect to pay for services rather than using things that spy on you. None of that matters though. I have a hard enough time getting people to use Signal, which is free; anything paid is a complete nonstarter.
BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Yep.
Base usage must be free.
And that base needs to compete with everything else.
Maybe a paid tier for media beyond a certain size, say 50mb or 100mb, I don’t know. If I had to pay for being able to have 50mb attachments, I’d be willing to work to keep the sizes lower, helping reduce their costs. If I felt I needed the attachment size, say for work, then I could upgrade.
Or maybe a paid tier for self-hosting that can interconnect with the rest of Signal.
Hell, once I can start using Signal as my primary (or if they brought SMS back), I’d happily pay.
LWD@lemm.ee 11 months ago
CaptainSpaceman@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Yeah, ive used Threema and Matrix and neither competes with the ease of adoption that Signal has for normies
SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 months ago
Sounds like more people should just use the same Matrix bridges that Beeper is using for their main service and just spinning up their own Matrix server instead of trusting a third party with their Apple credentials logged into a Mac that lives on their property and is technically owned by them. The “original plan” was to send out refurbished iPhone 4’s to people to use, but apparently letting consumers have a little more control was going to be too confusing or something and instead they rolled out a fleet of Macs internally.
Matrix is trusted and secure. Why bother with a third party charging for a service of… setting it up for you, with a flashy front-end?