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And yet if your teenage ensign is given a death sentence, definitely violate the Prime Directive. The needs of the few outweigh the needs of the many and all that…

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VindictiveJudge@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
The Prime Directive shouldn’t have even applied with that. They can’t stop a foreign government from executing their own citizens for stupid things, but trying to execute another nation’s citizens is an international incident and falls under standard international politics. The Federation seems to give Starfleet ship captains ambassadorial powers, so Picard should have started threatening sanctions and making comments about how executing Wes could be considered an act of war.

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- FlyingSquid@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Probably not, but they said it did, so that’s their problem.
  
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Makeitstop@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Going down to the planet, introducing yourself to the pre-warp civilization, making no effort to hide the fact that you are aliens from another world, planning your shore leave and preparing to fuck as many of them as you can? Not a prime directive violation.

Rescuing one of your kids who accidently breaks one of their rules and is immediately condemned to death, and asserting that as a member of your crew he is subject to your punishments and not theirs? Prime directive violation.

Taking one of the locals up to space to see the thing they consider to be a god, and openly defying the very foundations of their civilization’s system of law and order? Not a prime directive violation.

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- FlyingSquid@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Apparently the ‘prime’ in ‘prime directive’ just means ‘this is the first one we thought of’ and the ‘directive’ part of ‘directive’ means ‘however you feel like interpreting it this week.’
  
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jaybone@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Also they had already made contact, does the prime directive apply?

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- VindictiveJudge@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  For their internal politics, yes the PD applies. For general interaction, no, the PD no longer applies. You can also land on a pre-warp world if they’re already buying Romulan Ale from the Ferengi. It’s not like you can make it any worse once the cat’s out of the bag. Consider that Kirk was sent to negotiate with the Organians back when they were thought to be a pre-industrial species; that was fine since they had already been contacted by some other people, including the Klingons.
  
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