Comment on Pluralistic: "If buying isn't owning, piracy isn't stealing"

• gapbetweenus@feddit.de ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I have a thing and than someone takes it away, so I can’t use it anymore. If somebody copies that thing - it’s not really theft.

  My point is more - concepts from physical world don’t nessessary apply to digital world.

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  • helenslunch@feddit.nl ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    If somebody copies that thing - it’s not really theft.

    Yes, it absolutely is, by any standard.

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    • gapbetweenus@feddit.de ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Sure buddy what ever makes you happy.

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      • helenslunch@feddit.nl ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        None of this makes me happy

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    • TootGuitar@reddthat.com ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You say “ask the dictionary” — multiple dictionary definitions as well as Wikipedia say that theft requires the intent to deprive the original owner of the property in question, which obviously doesn’t apply to copyright infringement of digital works

      You say “ask the law” — copyright infringement is not stealing, they are literally two completely different statutes, at least in the US.

      So, what the hell are you talking about? Copyright infringement is not theft.

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      • helenslunch@feddit.nl ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        multiple dictionary definitions as well as Wikipedia say that theft requires the intent to deprive the original owner of the property in question

        Like many words, “theft” has several different definitions, that being one of them.

        copyright infringement is not stealing

        Congratulations, that’s the 4th strawman in this thread. No one is talking about copyrights.

        So what the hell are you talking about?

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  • ParsnipWitch@feddit.de ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It just seems that what you are saying is that people shouldn’t be paid if their work doesn’t create something physical.

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    • gapbetweenus@feddit.de ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Nope, that’s not what I’m saying. I just make a difference between copying, stealing, physical goods, digital goods and immaterial things. They are not the same.

      Easy examples: original and copy does not really apply to digital works or two people on opposite sides of world can have the same thought but not have the same physical object at the same time, etc.

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      • Katana314@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Please name for me something someone could create on a computer, that you would agree they should be paid for; even if they show a demonstration copy to someone.

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