Comment on YSK that chiropractors are not medical doctors and "Systematic reviews... have found no evidence that chiropractic manipulation is effective"

• evasive_chimpanzee@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Important caveat of “in the US”. In most countries, osteopaths are basically the same as chiropractors. In the US, DO licensing is the same as MD licensing, so they do have to learn real science and medicine in addition to the fake science and medicine of osteopathy. Personally, I wouldn’t aim for a DO as my Dr., but if I already had one that I liked, I wouldn’t worry about it too much. Osteopathic schools are easier to get into than medical schools, cause we have more people that want to get their MD than we have schools to teach them, so plenty of those people become DO’s.

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  • Alue42@kbin.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    This is incorrect. You are likely confused due to the fact that the names of the fields are similar.

    Osteopathy /=/ osteopathic

    I'll discuss the fields as the are in the US, as I am not aware of how they are in other countries.

    • Chiropractors go through their own degree programs through their own colleges.
    • Osteopaths are homeopathic practitioners (not doctors, and they legally are not allowed to refer to their customers as clients, not patients) and are alternative medicine practicioners.
    • MDs receive a medical degree and are doctors.
    • DOs receive a medical degree (an MD) as well as an additional 300+ hours of osteopathic study through their medical school to receive a second medical degree certification - this is NOT the same as the homeopathic study, this is the study of the bones, joints, nerves, and how they all work together as a whole.

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    • roguetrick@kbin.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It doesn't have to do with homeopathy. Osteopathy is it's own pseudoscience alternative medicine and it is what they're trained as a side to their medical training. They do act like this training somehow makes them more holistic than MDs, but that's been proven to be largely false and they generally do not use that osteopathic manipulation in their practice.

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    • evasive_chimpanzee@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The AOA only recently (2010) decided to recommend that DO’s no longer be called osteopaths. As they still practice and teach osteopathic manipulation, it’s not inaccurate to still refer to them as osteopaths. When they abandon that pseudoscience and turn completely to evidence based medicine, I’ll refer to them as DO’s. Right now, all DO’s are osteopaths, but not all osteopaths are DO’s.

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  • JaymesRS@literature.cafe ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    That’s why I specifically said in the US. You have to be careful, though, some DO schools are easier to get into than some MD schools but there are also DO schools that are harder to get into than some MD schools (MD schools in the Caribbean for example) so unless you are being hyper vigilant about which school your GP went to, you’re still just relying on the fact that they all passed the same or equivalent boards anyway.

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  • mvilain@infosec.pub ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Actually, outside the US, the DO training is 7 years, same as a medical doctor. I chose a DO for my primary care doctor because they have papatory skills (i.e. they actually touch someone) that regular doctors refer out.

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    • evasive_chimpanzee@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Really depends on the country, though. Many countries don’t have “DO” as a profession cause they only need one type of evidence based medical degree, so anyone who does osteopathy is basically equivalent to a chiropractor or other type of witch doctor.

      I can definitely respect the perception that they interact with you more, and I’m glad you have a doctor that works well for you.

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