You know what? I was going to methodically refute each thing, but you’re so wrong that I’ll just say you’re wrong and then this: you assuming things about people and boxing them up as your own preconceived “stereotypes” is a way more toxic trait than your street side christian hypocrisy.
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lennybird@lemmy.world 6 months ago
You know what’s so sad about something like this?
The conservative seeing this will opt to blame the individual. This conservative will most frequently espouse themselves to be a Christian nonetheless. “Jesus-like” in aspirations and idolatry.
And yet, they’ll have the knee-jerk reaction to this image that is saying, “Well they put themselves in that position.”
“It wasn’t the happenstance of birth locations,.”
“It wasn’t the culmination of external forces and externalities building to this moment.”
“It wasn’t the fact that their life was harder than my own.”
“Or perhaps my life was hard and I’m using the survivor-bias fallacy to justify kicking the ladder out from under me.”
The conservative believes there are lesser people who deserve what they get coming. It’s seemingly incomprehensible to them that we humans are quite literally of the same species, and that you must come to the conclusion one of two possibilities: Either (1) We are all a blank slate from the start and thus products of our environment. Nurture comprising the vast majority of what influences us. Which means those left out on the streets; those who take drugs in an ideal state of mind don’t want to be there, but are already too far broken from past experiences to reconcile their immediate choices (and need saved; protected; rehabilitated by the same outside forces that put them there in the fist place). Or (2) It is genetic, which means there is a predisposition incompatible with the inherently-flawed system we’ve built for ourselves. They’re a circle in a square system, and it’s thus just the same not their choice. And so again, the system should adapt and accommodate them just the same to promote a healthier society overall.
THAT would be more Jesus-like. Not the lazy cop-out that casts them off as degenerates. Such people lack empathy and cannot comprehend the bigger picture.
spikespaz@programming.dev 6 months ago
FarmTaco@lemmy.world 6 months ago
“I was gonna, but then I decided to just call you toxic cause I don’t like the things you said, and this way I don’t actually have to have a nuanced opinion or refute anything.”
but at least you got to feel morally superior for a bit after posting, right?
spikespaz@programming.dev 6 months ago
And another reason I didn’t put so much effort in is because that comment made me mad. This person managed to smear two separate groups of people in the same paragraph, quite thoroughly, while also being incredibly narrow. I don’t think that the descriptions actually represent the majority of these two groups of people. Perhaps it does describe some of the people in the middle of the Venn diagram, but certainly not all. You can’t just go around accusing entire groups of people of being “bad”. That makes you no better than Trump.
FarmTaco@lemmy.world 6 months ago
You didnt put any effort in, you saw something you didn’t like because you disagree so you just decided to pretend to have some sort of bag of tricks to prove your point, for some inane reason.
spikespaz@programming.dev 6 months ago
I specified the behavior that I don’t like, and have said what I had to say. Further rebuttal would be pointless, because you can’t argue with stupid.
mohammed_alibi@lemmy.world 6 months ago
There are two types of Christians.
- The fake ones. Ultra-conservative. Personal responsibility blah blah blah.
- The real ones. Saved by grace, not by works. These are very rare. Some churches do not have a single one.
Smoogs@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I’d not just put it on the conservative. They are being brainwashed by a larger force that puts money as a goal above people. Eg: sackler and his punching down motion to witch hunt addicts in order to try to save the OxyContin face.
As a result the easily influenced will go as far as see humans as subhumans if they threaten the almighty dollar. No doubt they are already in the tipping point as you said too. A perfect storm of apathy.
ASeriesOfPoorChoices@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Which would be fine, if it weren’t for his third sentence.