Comment on Asking ChatGPT to Repeat Words ‘Forever’ Is Now a Terms of Service Violation
threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.works 11 months agoIf those web pages are human accessible for free then I can’t see how they could be considered anything other than public domain information
I don’t think that’s the case. A photographer can post pictures on their website for free, but that doesn’t make it legal for anyone to slap the pictures on t-shirts and sell them.
Rodeo@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
Because that becomes distribution.
Which is the crux of this issue: using the data for training was probably legal use under copyright, but if the AI begins to share training data that is distribution, and that is definitely illegal.
RQG@lemmy.world 11 months ago
It wasn’t. It is commercial use to train and sell a programm with it and that is regulated differently than private use. The data is still 1 to 1 part of the product. In fact this instance of chatGPT being able to output training data means the data is still there unchanged.
If training AI with text is made legally independent of the license of said text then by the same logic programming code and text can no longer be protected by it at all.
CapeWearingAeroplane@sopuli.xyz 11 months ago
First of all no: Training a model and selling the model is demonstrably equivalent to re-distributing the raw data.
Secondly: What about all the copyleft work in there? That work is specifically licensed such that nobody can use the work to create a non-free derivative, which is exactly what openAI has done.
Rodeo@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
Copyleft is the only valid argument here. Everything else falls under fair use as it is a derivative work.
CapeWearingAeroplane@sopuli.xyz 11 months ago
If I scrape a bunch of data, put it in a database, and then make that database queryable only using obscure, arcane prompts: Is that a derivative work permitted under fair use?
Because if you can get chatgpt to spit out raw training data with the right prompt, it can essentially be used as a database of copyrighted stuff that is very difficult to query.