Yeah this one is more than a little irritating. I’ve encountered too many people who know someone who has someone in their life that was adversely affected by the vaccine. Heart attacks, strokes, nerve issues, whatever. But when you press them for the details there’s always something else, like the person has diabetes, had a bunch of age-related diseases, etc. But there’s no way those things had anything to do with their poor health…no, it has to be the vaccine. Or maybe the even got covid, but refused to get tested.
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rustyfish@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Oh, they are still around. Now they are talking about people in their 20s dying from the vaccine. And there have been millions of young people (in Germany alone) who died because of the vaccine. The government just made the bodies disappear and payed their families off.
I wish I was joking, but no. This is the shit they believe. I hate every single amoeba on the right.
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 9 months ago
superduperenigma@lemmy.world 9 months ago
It’s the same problem I have with people who want me to fix their computer. Any issues that come up at any time in the future, no matter how much time passed or how unrelated it is, was caused by “whatever I did.”
No, Aunt Karen, the malware you downloaded is not from me restarting your Wi-Fi adapter 3 years ago.
Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 9 months ago
someone in their life that was adversely affected by the vaccine.
There are rare side effects. When someone brings it up, it’s important to acknowledge it but qualify the risk. .0001% of heart problem or .1 % of death. Tell them it’s like driving without a seat belt because of the 1 in a million chance you get in an accident where the seatbelt traps you. Meanwhile 77% of all people have been in an accident.
Got_Bent@lemmy.world 9 months ago
0.1% chance of death is one in a thousand. That seems mighty high.
Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 9 months ago
“The COVID-19 age-adjusted death rate for the age 65 and over population was 533.5 per 100,000 standard population.”
“the death rate for COVID-19 among adults aged 85 and over (1,645.0 per 100,000)”
www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db446.htm
Assuming the relative was somewhere between 65 and 85 puts it at around 1 in a thousand.
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 9 months ago
I don’t deny that there are potential side effects. However, when one person knows multiple people who have suffered some ill effect it’s obviously not about the science. By that same token I could apply my logic that I know zero people who have had any serious side effects.
I actually just suggest that they drive without seatbelts seeing as the odds of getting in a serious accident are so low in their daily life if they want to refuse the vaccine based on potential side effects. Hemming and hawing usually follows.
InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Conservative movements and religious fundamentalism have a lot in common. When you see it that way it makes more sense.
cooopsspace@infosec.pub 9 months ago
Had this one from my grandmother.
Apparently doctors and nurses have been paid off to peddle this and it’s all part of a big global hoax.
Meanwhile my sister with $80,000 nursing student loans is like “Wtf where’s my money? You mean I nearly died working my butt off.”
Also ignoring the fact that if even 0.001% of the global medical community has misgivings about accepting what I assume must have been an enormous bribe that we would have heard about it??
Octopus1348@lemy.lol 9 months ago
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cooopsspace@infosec.pub 9 months ago
Like at least if they’re gonna get bribed it would be enough to pay off student loans and then some.
Because if the story was true, you’d lose your medical license. It’s hard to pay off your student debt if you’re not a doctor or nurse anymore.