Are they allowed to be run over
The language you’re using is just ridiculous.
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mupAus@aussie.zone 7 months agoIt could, but beaches aren’t roads. What if someone was sunbaking or laying on the sand in an area they thought was safe? Are they allowed to be.run over because they weren’t keeping a close eye on every vehicle movement in the vicinity?
In my experience, vehicles don’t stick to any one particular “lane” on a beach so allowing them to use it as a road means the beach is now entirely unusable for anyone who is not in a vehicle.
You shouldn’t have to post a guard to ensure a member of your family is able to enjoy a beach without fear of someone in a vehicle killing them.
bestusername@aussie.zone 7 months ago
saltesc@lemmy.world 7 months ago
You need to do some basic research.
Too lazy; didn’t research. In Australia, 4×4 beaches are recognised as roads. All road rules apply, speed limits are signed. You even have to deal with planes when driving through an airport. Yep, beaches also have designated airports with regular traffic and they function exactly the same too.
99% of the east coast to go to, but if the idea of your toddler being unsupervised in road and air traffic sounds fun to you, there’s maps. And you’ll see all the warning signage that’ll let you know you’re at the right spot. Plus all the traffic. If you really want to step up the fun, walk past the 40kph road signs to the 80kph ones. Orange beacons mean you’re on an airsyrip, great sunbathing spot. It’s your right.
naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 months ago
If you are controlling machinery, and you fail to observe potential hazards and account for them, you are negligent.
If the speed limit is a hundred gazillion but you can’t see enough to be able to stop for someone you are being homicidally reckless. It’s a limit not a target.
saltesc@lemmy.world 7 months ago
But to return back to something relevant; Yes. Controlling machinery does, in a way, imply controlling it. Very astute. This is why it’s fine to play in traffic without supervision, everyone’s in control.
On a less sarcastic note, I hope y’all aren’t procreating.
naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 months ago
Hey so if I’m holding a drill on a build site, and a kid is there for whatever reason, and I walk up to them and drill through there leg at low speed what am I?
mupAus@aussie.zone 7 months ago
Nah, I’m good.
I don’t care if beaches are roads. My point is that beaches should not be roads.
I was over on Moreton Island recently and walking south of the resort. Didn’t see any of your claimed warning signage. Just utes and 4wds tearing the shit out of the beach from the water line up to where the trees start. A beautiful beach in a beautiful spot away from all the crowds but I’ve got to be watching my kids like a hawk to make sure some idiot doesn’t kill one of them and then try to blame me for daring to walk with my kids down to the sand dunes.
I don’t care if it’s legal, it shouldn’t be. Why does everything have to be turned into yet more space exclusively for vehicles. Especially pristine beaches.
saltesc@lemmy.world 7 months ago
There are very few beaches you can go to where vehicles are also allowed. Your interests are not exclusively reign to all of them over other people’s interests. You literally have hundreds of other options, most of them better. Learn to accept other people and the things they enjoy and you need but share just a bit with them is all. if you can’t tolerate others, just don’t go there. They’re tolerating you and your kids without complaint.
The Australian coastline is not yours and not everyone is you.
bouriquet@mastodon.social 7 months ago
@mupAus @saltesc That’s the issue: every continent has rednecks or whatever you call them who think it’s “fun” to get in a 4-wheel vehicle, burn up gasoline, spread fumes, tear up habitat, leave refuse and call themselves “outdoor folk”. Wheee-ha!
Stopping them requires re-education, legislation and perhaps barbed wire
Salvo@aussie.zone 6 months ago
Most 4wders on K’Gari and other Sand-based highways in Australia are travelling between locations as part of a journey to another location.
While there are the dickheads out there that do tear up the beaches, they are subject to the same restrictions and laws as dickheads who drive illegally on bitumen on highways and in industrial estates.
It is tragic that anyone was injured an on a K’Gari beach. We don’t know the full details on what happened, it could be a child that was in an unsafe location, it could have been a driver in an inappropriate location, it could have just been a freak accident. I do hope that the result will be improved public awareness of which beaches are safe and legal to drive on, which beaches are suitable for swimming and which beaches are too dangerous for anyone.