Comment on Car dealers say they can’t sell EVs, tell Biden to slow their rollout

starbreaker@kbin.social ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• Sanctus@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  For real, I just had a transmission eat all my money. A transmission! Thats what we’re dealing with and they’re wondering why we aren’t scrambling to pay tens of thousands. We simply do not have it. Also my landlord increased my rent at the same time. This place works for no one but the already rich.

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  • 1984@lemmy.today ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    You will own nothing and be happy. Google that and you understand.

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    • Sanctus@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      There is no lack of understanding here. But thats not the goal. There is no unified goal. We live in the era of a thousand fiefdoms, all allowed to own an exchange and partially own each other’s serfs. It is the endless gnawing masses. The sweet older couple down the street is just as guilty of the C Suite for profit motives, as their retirement depends on the stock market. A vicious, self-defeating cycle straight into the Garbage Wastes of Tomorrow.

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    • captainlezbian@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The world economic forum has less actual power than the city counsel of buffalo New York. They aren’t the Illuminati they’re a bunch of jackasses trying to make an economic system that eats itself whenever it’s put in a position where it can sustainable without saying no to eating itself.

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  • ripcord@kbin.social ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It doesn't sound like you were going to buy a new car of any kind.

    Their argument supposedly isn't that people aren't buying new cars, but that they're buying EVs at a slower rate.

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    • Sanctus@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I’d buy an EV if I could afford one. Shit, when that transmission went out it would have been a good time to consider. But not with the price tags on everything and my 2004 wages.

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      • ripcord@kbin.social ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        The average new car in 2023 was like $47,000, would you have bought a new car at all?

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• Hypx@kbin.social ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  BEVs are fundamentally more expensive than conventional cars. That is the real problem here. Blaming the dealers won't change that.

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  • JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    But not if you take into account the leveled cost of ownership. But it’s an up front cost rather than spread out, so it’s more difficult.

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  • starbreaker@kbin.social ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I own my 2008 Sentra outright. Why should I take on a car payment just to "go electric" when the car I have still runs well?

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    • LWD@lemm.ee ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

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      • JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        With average us energy mix and fuel economy, a new EV will have emitted less co2 than continuing to use an old gas car after about a year. There are factors other than just co2 to the environment, (for example, cobalt mining is pretty bad) but EVs are much better on co2 at least.

        youtu.be/6RhtiPefVzM

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      • starbreaker@kbin.social ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I know. That's another reason I haven't bought one yet, besides being the sort of miser who would rather drive the same car until it falls apart beneath him than take out more high-interest loans.

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