Comment on YouTube’s Loaded With EV Disinformation

• billwashere@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Yeah this sort of either or mentality and that “perfect is the enemy of good” is an absurd argument.

  Make things better if even a little and iterate. At least you’re moving in the right direction.

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• FluffyPotato@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  infrastructure and public transit solve the same issue but infinitely better while EVs are accessible only for people with enough disposable income and are comparably very bad at helping with climate change so I’d rather focus on a more accessible solution that helps more.

  In my country people buy used cars pretty much always because of cost and used EVs aren’t really a thing I have seen. There also aren’t many charging stations and local power is mostly produced from oil shale so EVs do squat to help with anything. Public transit on the other hand is easy to advocate for because it’s widely used and most people prefer the tram over car in my city already which is like the best form of transportation over short distances.

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  • GiddyGap@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I’d rather focus on a more accessible solution that helps more.

    I get that. But I think it’s extremely important to not mix climate policies with ideology. You risk alienating a very large chunk of the population, especially in the US, who are ideologically against public transportation.

    We need everyone to get onboard with the green transition. Also conservatives.

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    • FluffyPotato@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I’m not in the US so I’m not advocating for anything there as I have no power to do that. Here advocating for public transit over cars is pretty simple and accessible, also not alienating to any group I’m aware of. I’m just saying EVs are not very helpful in comparison to public transit.

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  • joshhsoj1902@lemmy.ca ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    While public transit is great. It’s a lot more expensive to setup, and even more expensive to make convenient if the city wasn’t built with public transit in mind.

    It’s just not a medium term solution for most north american cities, I do desperately hope that cities will start investing more in public transit, and encourage more dense housing, but realistically that is a 30-80 year timeframe. And that’s assuming 100s of municipal governments all get on board. The political lift here is also very large.

    The reality right now in North America is, if you’re heavily advocating against electric vehicles, all you’re really doing is adding support to the oil and gas industry trying to stop the outright ban of ICE cars.

    We need to do more public transit, and we need to stop using ICE vehicles.

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    • FluffyPotato@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Actually maintaining car infrastructure is quite a lot more expensive than setting up public transit. The issue is that the effects of climate change are here and will get worse faster and faster while EVs are a drop in the ocean as far as solutions are.

      Sure, advocate for EVs if you want but don’t pretend they will have a meaningful effect with the environment unless you can replace every ICE vehicle globally and even then public transit would have a massively higher impact while easier and cheaper to implement.

      The highest impact for climate change would be to force the 10 or so companies that produce like 70% of CO2 to not do that or just bomb their factories or something.

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      • joshhsoj1902@lemmy.ca ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Which car infrastructure are you talking about in this case?

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