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tinsuke@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  You should know that Fairphones in the U.S. are only officially sold through Murena. The Fairphone website does not make this clear at all.

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  • ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Fairphones don’t have all the proper frequency bands for most US networks, so you’re likely to not be able to use it, or have limited use (like no 5g) if you get one.

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    • Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The Murena Fairphone 4 is fully functional on T-Mobile. Fairphone only sells their U.S. compatible versions through Murena currently.

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    • Reddit_refugee7834@lemmy.today ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Hello, here is a comparison of the 5G support specs. on the on T-mobile of two of the latest Fairphone’s vs Googles latest Pixel. Note that as of writing the Fairhone 5 is not available in the USA

      The Fairphone 4 murena.com/america/shop/…/murena-fairphone-4/#tec…

      5G supported bands n1/n3/n5/n7/n8/n20/n28/n38/n41/n71/n77/n78

      The Fairphone 5 murena.com/shop/…/murena-fairphone-5/#tech-spec

      5G supported bands n1/n2/n3/n5/n7/n8/n20/n28/n38/n41/n48/n66/n71/n77/n78

      The Google Pixel 8 store.google.com/us/product/pixel_8_specs?hl=en-U…

      5G Sub-621: Bands n1/2/3/5/7/8/12/20/25/26/28/29/30/38/40/41/48/66/70/71/77/78
      5G mmWave21: Bands n258/260/261

      T-mobiles 5G bands www.t-mobile.com/support/…/t-mobile-network

      5GUC (Ultra Capacity 5G)

      Band n41 (2.5 GHz) // Supported on all the above 
      Band n258 (24 GHz) // Only supported by the pixel 8
      Band n260 (39 GHz)//  Only supported by the pixel 8
      Band n261 (28 GHz) // Only supported by the pixel 8
      

      5G (Extended Range 5G)

      Band n71 (600 MHz) // Supported on all the above 
      

      Hopefully this is helpful. Next would be the 4G LTE comparison.

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      • ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        That’s a very good and informative mock up. It highlights some of the information on why Fairphone has a more limited use in the US. In t mobiles case, it’s only missing 3g, which is being phased out and all of the ghz range 5g network, which may end up causing issues in the future, since networks like to gut speeds on older networks like how 4gvis very slow now, when it used to be plenty fast before 5g was rolled out.

        Also, some network providers will only allow certain phones on their networks, compatible bands or not. I did not thoroughly check, but it seems t mobile will allow you to activate fp4 and 5 on their network.

        I would still be weary of getting a phone that you want to last a very long time that already doesn’t have the capability to run on all available US bands. I wouldn’t want to be forced into using a specific carrier on a phone I wanted for the next 8 years or however long. Heck, I got my note 20 ultra I’m using and intend to keep using around three years ago used for an admittedly crazy good deal at the time of $375.

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• jameskirk@startrek.website ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Even better, for you, and for the planet, is to buy second hand.

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  • nudnyekscentryk@szmer.info ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Fairphone offers factory refurbished devices, but they are still ridiculously bad deal. A refurbished Fairphone 4 (a device couple of years old) sells for $30 less than a brand new one. Sure, you still get warranty, but it is a $600 second hand device after all.

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    • jameskirk@startrek.website ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I didn’t mean a second hand Fairphone, I mean a second hand whatever phone.

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    • laughingsquirrel@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I don’t know where you got “a couple of years old” from. Do you mean, that the Fairphone 4 in general is a couple of years old?

      Because, on the website it says the refurbished devices are: “After less than a month of Fairphoning, the phone is returned” So the Fairphone was only in use for max 4 weeks. I would still count that as mostly first hand :)

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      • nudnyekscentryk@szmer.info ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Fairphone 4 was released in 2019.

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