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• FuryMaker@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Until they ban encryption…

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  • redcalcium@lemmy.institute ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    They want to ban encryption? Let me guess, is it for the “safety” of children?

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    • themurphy@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Yes, but it failed the latest vote.

      Not saying someone won’t try again.

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    • ZenbyBosatsu@lemmy.today ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Gotta keep children “safe”… In reality that just means making it easier to watch over the adults taking care of said children :P Lol. Begone Privacy!!

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  • Johanno@feddit.de ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Well the parties in question are trying this for almost a decade. Mostly the “conservative” party from Germany wants total surveillance. In my eyes they are more right than Conservative

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    • kaesaecracker@leminal.space ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Germany is one of the countries against the current chat surveillance proposal, so at least we have that going for us (which is nice)

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      • sukhmel@programming.dev ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I’m not sure what is chat surveillance protocol but whatever would be the result any benifits will probably only apply to EU citizens. I recently heard of how Russia’s biggest XMPP server was MitM’ed, it was hosted in Hetzner

        It feels like everyone wants to eavesdrop on everyone else, preferably, or at least on everyone who’s not proteted by the local law. Still the US is a worse case of the spying on everything alive, I guess

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    • uis@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      So, Stasi party?

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    • MonkderZweite@feddit.ch ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The same people that want VDS, despite multiple consecutive judgments up to EUGH level against it.

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      • Johanno@feddit.de ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Politics is complicated. The CDU is trying to enable spying on citizens for years. Which doesn’t mean people in the EU from Germany must share this idea.

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  • ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Lots of stupid stuff gets proposed by members too, but generally it does not pass or gets vetoed by someone.

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  • topinambour_rex@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I thought it was tanked after the real sponsors was found out

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    • sukhmel@programming.dev ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Who the real sponsor was? Maybe I can read the whole story somewhere?

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  • normanwall@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

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    • cley_faye@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Not if encrypted traffic with no state-sanctioned backdoor is forbidden.

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  • uis@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Until any country ban encryption. Looking at you, USA.

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  • Chreutz@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Not necessarily the same people that advocate for the different ideas.

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• qyron@sopuli.xyz ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Like anything else, some times right, some times wrong.

  This is a great “right” moment.

  I dread the next “wrong” one.

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  • masterspace@lemmy.ca ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Just saying “sometimes right, sometimes wrong” is such an oversimplification that it’s meaningless.

    Yes, almost all real world systems have variable outcomes, that doesn’t mean that are some aren’t better than others or on average produce better outcomes or ones that drive us in the right direction.

    I.e. a system of strong regulators with clear and strong checks and balances (courts and parliament itself), is a far better system than one where corporations are just allowed to operate freely and implement whatever policies they want the instant they have the market power to do so.

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    • qyron@sopuli.xyz ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      My statement was not a critique but just an atempt to make a light remark.

      I am fully aware the other option would be living in three ring circus, like the UK is turning into.

      Lighten up. Smile.

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