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• _Gandalf_the_Black_@feddit.de ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Also accents are not people “choosing” to speak another way. It’s just a result of linguistic change.

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• _Gandalf_the_Black_@feddit.de ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I mean, in Australian accents, pen and pin are pronounced the same. That doesn’t make their accent invalid.

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  • ryannathans@aussie.zone ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Not here, maybe NZ

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    • _Gandalf_the_Black_@feddit.de ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Okay, I looked it up, and it seems I was getting confused with the Australian weak vowel merger; the pin/pen merger is actually in some American accents

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  • db2@sopuli.xyz ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I mean, it does if you’re adding for a pen and get a pin. It’s on the speaker to make themselves understood, excepting disabilities. Are you saying being Australian is a disability?

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    • _Gandalf_the_Black_@feddit.de ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      So basically your argument is that an accent or dialect is only valid if it can be understood by people from outside that speech community? German and English both have the same linguistic origins, but they are not mutually intelligible. Does that make either or both invalid ways of speaking? Do you realise that phonological changes are a perfectly natural part of linguistic evolution and, given enough time, speakers of dialect X and dialect Y can stop being able to understand each other? Yes, you can code-switch to make yourself more understandable to speakers of another dialect, but that’s generally what you do when the differences between the two dialects are big enough that you feel the need to change the entire manner in which you speak.

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      • db2@sopuli.xyz ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        You sound like the kind of person who would go vacation in another country and complain about all the foreigners. I wouldn’t go to Germany speaking English and expect everyone to understand me, I’d bother to learn German so i could be understood. This isn’t a hard concept to understand here.

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