I suppose, the point I mean to make is that belittling this guy does nothing to solve the problem.
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FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 11 months agoI have no real data to back that notion up, but from what I hear from Europeans, that’s the general feel.
Yeah, and Americans in general once felt that the Irish or the Italians would take over the country because they were emigrating in large numbers. Guess what never happened?
DahGangalang@infosec.pub 11 months ago
FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 11 months ago
How did I belittle them? By saying they were needlessly fearmongering? Because they are needlessly fearmongering. Muslims haven’t taken over port towns and they won’t implement sharia law in Europe.
DahGangalang@infosec.pub 11 months ago
That’s fair. I can see how I read more malice into your comment than was intended. I’d like to apologize for that.
I do want (for the sake of clarity) to say that I agree the flow of muslims to EU/US cities is not a problem. The notion of any western nation implementing Sharia Law (or any approximation) is wild at best.
I do think that the way you accused him of needlessly fear mongering doesn’t placate or soften the guys opinions. I think flat accusations like that are part of what pushes guys who do believe “Sharia Law will come by having Muslims around” into more extremist positions. Whether you intended it or not, I’m sure it was received as a belittling comment what will only serve to alienate the guy.
That does beg the question: what is the correct way to handle comments like this guy’s, to which I don’t have a good response. I do appreciate you rolling out actually data. But watching the polarization of beliefs and politcal positions, I feel the part folling the link to statistics isn’t helping.
JustMy2c@lemm.ee 11 months ago
I did NOT say that at allllllllll. You change my words into what you want to attack!
Reading comprehension amongst 14yo basement fundies has gone down, I understand that, so please take some time and read again what I ACTUALLY wrote. Thanks.
FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Your words:
Until you find out it lets Muslim immigrants (80% of whom prefer sharia law over eu law) take over entire towns & countries.
Evil_incarnate@lemm.ee 11 months ago
There is a big difference though. Their beliefs were compatible with Americans, everyone believed in Jesus, not killing people and such. And most importantly, the next generation mingled and married locals and they were almost fully assimilated by the third generation.
Where I live, and other places, most of the Muslim population (not all, mind you) keep their children from others as much as possible. The children are taught what they can and can’t do because they are Muslim. And they can only marry Muslims (conversions are allowed but the family must live Muslim lives under those rules. They are not allowing natural assimilation. Places like Denmark have laws forcing immigrant children to attend day care with locals, because otherwise they won’t.
FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Okay, but they’re still a tiny minority. They will not be implementing sharia law in Europe any time in the foreseeable future because they just won’t have that power.
Also, if you’re going to say belief in Jesus is a requirement for being European, you’re going to have to do something about the Jews who live there too. And considering they’ve lived there for thousands of years, maybe that isn’t a defining characteristic of Europeans.
JustMy2c@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Nobody said they will. But they WANT to. Read my original text and please reply to the points that I ACTUALLY made, instead of putting words in my mouth…
FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Your words:
Their beliefs were compatible with Americans, everyone believed in Jesus
Jews don’t believe in Jesus. Did they want to take over America? Did they want to take over Germany?
assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Mamma mia!