Comment on Protesters denounce blockage of EU legislation defining rape as sex without consent

• TWeaK@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Robbery does require violence though.

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  • 520@kbin.social ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Cybercrime? Insider job?

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    • ninja@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Those are examples of theft. Robbery requires that some type of coercive force (physical or otherwise) be applied to an additional party.

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  • hersh@literature.cafe ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    This probably depends on jurisdiction. I also suspect “violence” in a legal sense is different from the everyday sense. I’m not a lawyer.

    From the US FBI’s web site:

    The FBI’s Uniform Crime Reporting (UCR) Program defines robbery as the taking or attempting to take anything of value from the care, custody, or control of a person or persons by force or threat of force or violence and/or by putting the victim in fear.

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    • TWeaK@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Yes I did gloss over the “threat of violence” part and just included it in general as “violence”.

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    • livus@kbin.social ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      So two of these things aren't violence. One is threats and one is making people afraid.

      Which are two of the scenarios that the protestors say the rape laws should be made to cover.

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  • charliespider@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Does it? Quietly hand a note to the bank teller that says: “this is a robbery, put $10000 in a bag”, then calmly walk out when they give it to you.

    One could argue that there was violence implied, but that doesn’t mean that violence was used.

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    • TWeaK@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Yeah the threat of violence makes it robbery (eg if you have a banana in your pocket but say you have a gun), just like terrorism can be either violence or the threat of violence to achieve a political goal. However, a bank heist would not be robbery, just like burglary or pickpocketing is not robbery.

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